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  •  It's much cheaper for them to hire already (4+ / 0-)
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    trained people from overseas than to train US minorities. And of course there is a factor that people they bring in may work for lower wages (although it's supposedly illegal).

    •  H1B's are always cheaper. (2+ / 0-)
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      Naniboujou, Exquisite

      The practice would not happen otherwise.

      Angry White Males + Crooks + Personality Disorder psychos + KKKwannabes + "Unborn Child" church folk =EQ= The Republicans (& I'm -4.38,-3.74)

      by vets74 on Sun May 22, 2011 at 04:54:37 PM PDT

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      •  That's just not true (4+ / 0-)

        The implication of your statement is that hiring an American national is always better than hiring an H1B assuming equal salaries.  This is totally asinine and xenophobic.  You really cannot fathom a scenario where a company would hire someone based on their talent/qualifications and not their country of residence?

      •  That's a rather simplistic interpretation. (3+ / 0-)
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        Initially mass influx of H1Bs started when there were simply not enough qualified Americans for IT or science jobs. It's probably no longer the case for most types of IT but there offshore outsourcing is a much bigger issue anyway. There are very few jobs that allow for hiring of H1B worker that don't require at least a bachelor's degree and 3 years of experience (although some companies do cheat).
        It's still the case in science (or at least was until 2009 or so; but very few H1B visas were issued since then anyway).

        •  Offshoring -> not an issue (0+ / 0-)

          Somewhere along the way some executives got the brilliant idea that engineers could be on the other side of the planet, with English as a 2nd language, and produce quality products under the direction of English speakers in America.  It didn't work in 90% of cases.  Offshoring is totally out of favor now except for the most mundane of tasks.  Not a threat at all to the American engineering community.

          •  I can't speak about engineering. I know (1+ / 0-)
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            that in software it's going very strong. And that's where most H1B visas used to come from. There have always been quality issues with offshoring but if anything they became less severe over time.

    •  It is illegal, but what's enforcement? (3+ / 0-)
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      An H1B visa holder working at a public school district was lucky to have a research job - doing something that I was qualified to do, but I was not willing to work in the situation she was glad to accept. No benefits (vacation, health benefits, disability, retirement), no permanent employment, no office.

      I'd have done the job as a consultant, to have greater flexibility wrt time and work location, since I didn't think the job responsibilities would require a full time position, but they couldn't hire me, an American citizen on the same terms as the H1B worker.

      I was lucky not to have taken it and found a much better job elsewhere. There I tried to hire an H!B visa holder to fill a job for which I had not been able to find a qualified candidate. The H1B worker would have been excellent, but my employer followed the H1B rules to the letter.

      "There's nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires." - President Obama

      by fhcec on Sun May 22, 2011 at 05:01:08 PM PDT

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