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  •  My concern re: 2012... (4+ / 0-)
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    amk for obama, TofG, Matt Z, OhioNatureMom how many rabid teahadist governors there are in blue states like ohio, pennsylvania, florida, michigan, wisconsin, etc....

    All it took in 2000 and 2004 to steal the elections was one state with anti-dem voter motives; now there's a ton of even crazier pols in many more states to mess with the elections

    •  It has to at least be close (5+ / 0-)
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      TofG, flhiii88, Odysseus, Matt Z, OhioNatureMom

      for them to be able to steal the elections--if Kerry had performed better in 04 he would have won Ohio in spite of the shenanigans.

    •  The 2004 election wasn't stolen (1+ / 0-)
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      John Kerry ran a horrible campaign. I agree about 2000, but some of you just can't accept the fact that the voters chose Bush in 2004.

    •  The answer is to widen the margins (2+ / 0-)
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      OhioNatureMom, lilsky

      It's not that 2010 was an abberation but the turnout was about 90 million voters nationwide versus 131 million in 2008. This low turnout holds the answers to the Republican victories in 2010.

      Energized Republicans can win in low turnout elections with relative ease as Democratic voters tend to be younger, less affluent, new citizens, and minorities.

      These voters have a tendency to vote only when a President is being selected and in 2010 more than a normal amount of them remained home and didn't vote.

      Was it voter fatigue, or the false belief that a Democratic President could work without a Democratic Congress, we don't really know and it is, for now, irrellevent.

      Our focus neds to be on getting out the voters in 2012.

      The 2010 story was Republican's and Right leaning Independents came out in far larger turnout percentages.

      Their voting surge was similar to the Dems in 2006, only with the energized Party being reversed.

       While even those Republican turnout percentages will rise in 2012, Dems turnout will too.

      The advantage to Dems is there is a constant growth in the Democratic pool of voters whereas the pool of Republican voters is declining.

      Republicans/FOXNEWS sells fear to it's constituents and the brand of fear is there for all to see it is "Americans who don't look like you aren't to be trusted, they might not even be American, and your future is in danger"

      That pitch sells to Whites who have supported Reaganism for 30 years, seen their standard of living steadily decline, and cannot see that it is their own brand of political philosophy that has hurt them.

      Denial is an easy place to remain when it's reenforced 24/7 by the very people who go back and forth between being News/Political commenters and Presidential Candidates. This phenomena is still a novelty to our nation's political conversation.

      Republicans from now on, without some structural change in the Republican Party making it more inclusive, will be faced with the fact they are diminishing in power on a nationwide basis.

      Even in the South and Mid-West the younger generations are not as prone to vote like their parents and this factor doesn't look good for the R's either.

      We can thank the same informational format that brings us FOXNEWS for the change in the youth in States that are deeply red. Their children and grandchildren watch the rest of the world on Television and the Internet and this expands their horizons opening up an entire world to them their parents never experienced as youngsters.

      The information genie is out of the bottle, regionalism and localism must now compete with the rest of the world.  It isn't going to be a winnable fight for the forces of "that's not the way we do it here".

      "A functioning Democracy must defy economic interests of the elites on behalf of citizens" Christopher Hedges Econ 3.50&Soc. 5.79

      by wmc418 on Fri Mar 18, 2011 at 07:44:21 AM PDT

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