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  •  To be honest, I am struggling with the UN decision (3+ / 0-)
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    On the one hand I hate to see us get involved in another drawn out conflict, or even use military action (even if the French take action first).

    Yet, on the other hand I hate to see these people in Libya senselessly killed by Gaddafi.

    If anyone missed this segment yesterday on Democracy Now! it is a must:

    Libyan Rebels Maintain Benghazi Media Center to Battle Gaddafi Regime through the Internet and Airwaves

    Reporting from the rebel-held city of Benghazi in eastern Libya, Democracy Now! correspondent Anjali Kamat visits a new media center established by anti-government forces to report on their struggle against forces loyal to Col. Muammar Gaddafi.

    This is a crisis I knew had to come, Destroying the balance I'd kept. Doubting, unsettling and turning around, Wondering what will come next.
    --Ian Curtis

    by jethrock on Fri Mar 18, 2011 at 05:37:27 AM PDT

    •  I can understand how people would (6+ / 0-)

      struggle morally with approving military force.  War sucks.

      In this case, however, it has become increasingly clear that military force will be needed.  Gaddafi will not understand any other language.  The Libyans that I met at the anti-Gaddafi protests here in Berlin were demanding a NFZ weeks ago.  It would be immoral to let the Libyans be slaughtered by Gaddafi and not intervene, imo.

      Bush really messed us up with the unilateral, illegal invasion of Iraq based on false premises.  It makes it much harder to take action when it is just and necessary.

      "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

      by Lawrence on Fri Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56:28 AM PDT

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    •  That link isn't working (n/t) (1+ / 0-)
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      Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth - Abraham Lincoln

      by Gustogirl on Fri Mar 18, 2011 at 07:59:44 AM PDT

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    •  The world has changed. (2+ / 0-)
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      It becomes a stronger moral imperative when you actually see a van deliberately run down pedestrians, when you see the maiming and brutalization of unarmed civilians, when you see  the burnt, bound corpses of military men unwilling to attack their own people, when the guy filming from his phone falls down, injured.

      My thoughts have gone to Rwanda, and I'm thinking that if the internet had the presence then that it does now, that the public would have arisen in horror and pressured their governments to intervene - as they have with the revolutions in the MENA region.

      It's much much different than a casual read in the newspaper or a brief mention on TV followed by happy commercial messages.

      Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth - Abraham Lincoln

      by Gustogirl on Fri Mar 18, 2011 at 08:13:51 AM PDT

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      •  I'd add to that (2+ / 0-)
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        that even the announcement of the NFZ has to be a huge hit to the morale of the pro-Kaddafy forces.  They just lost their air cover.  More than that, foreign air forces can attack Kaddafy's ground positions as well.

        I refuse to represent my political beliefs using numbers. It isn't accurate, nor is it helpful. But I'm around a -10 on both scales.

        by AoT on Fri Mar 18, 2011 at 12:26:05 PM PDT

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