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  •  Can you point me to some of this 'rah rah'? (6+ / 0-)

    Can you draw me some direct comparisons between the madness that swept the public and the media during the Iraq invasion and what's happening today?

    I'm a concert pianist with a double doctorate... AND YOU CAN BE TOO!

    by kenlac on Sun Mar 20, 2011 at 08:41:49 AM PDT

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    •  Sure. (1+ / 0-)
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      There are definitely echoes "we'll be greeted as liberators".  The widespread assumption is that a) a sizeable majority of civilians in Libya are siding with "the rebels"; b) Our intervention itself will stop the bloodshed/threat; c) Blowback isn't an issue; d) A sustained commitment won't be necessary...

      And it goes on and on.  Its true that the left, and particularly Obama himself, hasn't been "rah rah" about intervention...just like in 2003.  But we're ceding the debate to those who are.  We're not asking questions we need to.

      •  Maybe this time the "we'll be greeted (0+ / 0-)

        as liberators" arises from actual pleas from Libyans who were attempting to overthrow their dictator...inspired by the example of Tunisia and Egypt...unlike Iraq, where the idea came entirely from the U.S. Oval Office--and where the campaign was planned for more than a year. Nobody in the U.S. planned this, and the SecDef is not at all happy about it, (contrast Rummy and his enthusiasm for the "target rich" environment of Iraq).

        "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

        by Alice in Florida on Sun Mar 20, 2011 at 01:42:32 PM PDT

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