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  •  here's jaczko waffling (3+ / 0-)
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    in a followup press conference:

    Q    And picking up on Chuck’s question, a Japanese official today said he did not know if that cooling pool has been emptied.  Is it still your assessment that that cooling pond with the spent fuel rods is now empty?

          CHAIRMAN JACZKO:  Well, everything -- when we made the determination the other day, everything indicated that that was the case.  And I think as has been said, there’s a lot of conflicting information around this.  But the bottom line is, is that there clearly appears to be a challenge keeping that spent fuel filled with sufficient water. So it is a very dynamic situation.  And again, our efforts are really focused here on helping the Japanese deal with what is a very tragic and difficult situation, and we’ll continue to provide recommendations and expertise where we can to help.

    Whitehouse.gov press briefing

    "Kossacks are held to a higher standard. Like Hebrew National hot dogs." - blueaardvark

    by louisev on Sun Mar 20, 2011 at 06:16:43 PM PDT

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    •  Again: What "Technical Evidence" to the Contrary? (0+ / 0-)

      Jaczko's statement doesn't undermine anything he said earlier. The Japanese have been spraying water in there this weekend. It wouldn't surprise me if there's now some in the pool, but we still don't know.

      •  In addition to what louisev wrote (6+ / 0-)

        There is also the "Technical Evidence" of the various helicopters flying overhead to drop water on the top of building 4.  If the fuel pool had been empty there is no way they could have done that as the radiation levels would be SCREAMING.  Also, if there had been a fuel pool fire, given the temperature required for cladding to burn, and given its location in a 45 foot deep well, any water that went down there would have caused an immediate explosion due to steam being violently formed and interacting with everything else down there.

        Your faith in this event having happened is misplaced.

        Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

        by kbman on Sun Mar 20, 2011 at 06:56:33 PM PDT

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        •  thank you kbman (6+ / 0-)


          I thought this too but I don't have the science background to state it with your certainty.  It would also have made zero sense for the firemen to BYPASS fuel pool 4 for an entire additional day and concentrate 13 hours of water cannons on pool 3 and reactor 3, because they would have had to prioritize pool 4 in terms of criticality.  That is patently NOT what they did.  Fuel pool 4 was not empty.  It never was empty.

          "Kossacks are held to a higher standard. Like Hebrew National hot dogs." - blueaardvark

          by louisev on Sun Mar 20, 2011 at 07:22:41 PM PDT

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        •  There Wasn't A Fuel Fire (0+ / 0-)

          I've already told you this, and you know it. So why do you keep setting up that strawman?

          And, no, there wouldn't be an "explosion" from dumping water onto the rods. The water would turn to steam, and boil off.

          As for the "screaming" radiation levels, in fact the helicopters were driven off by high radiation levels. 250 mSv/hr at 100 feet is what I read.

        •  Wrong on the Facts (1+ / 0-)
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          Radiation levels were "screaming" -- according to the Japanese, 250mSv/hr.

          As for a "cladding fire," I have repeatedly written that this was never anything more than a future fear, regardless of what you heard when you watched the Fox network (strange choice for a Kossack, I'd say).

          And there is no evidence anywhere I've ever seen that says pouring water into an empty spent storage pond (no water, but rods still there) will cause an "immediate explosion." If I am wrong, and you're not just making things up on the fly, please provide a link to something authoritative, i.e., not Fox.

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