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  •  I'm not as sure as you seem to be (0+ / 0-)
    As far as Japan goes, your state statement that the humanitarian crisis is  "one less loudly reported on than the nuclear plant accident," is wrong.

    I read that as referring to the US press reporting HERE, not to the Japanese press reporting in Japan (which virtually NOBODY at DKos has ever read--just as I bet YOU are not reading any Libyan press reporting in Libya).  

    And in that case, the statement that the earthquake/tsunami is "less loudly reported on than the nuclear power accident" is trivially and uncontrovertibly true.  Just turn on CNN.

    •  ? (0+ / 0-)

      Let me remind you, what DemfrmCTR wrote

      The Japanese remember the WWII radiation experience all too well, and in addition (as if more is needed), this all comes in the middle of an ongoing humanitarian crisis due to the earthquake and tsunami, one less loudly reported on than the nuclear plant accident.

      Looks like, no, he is talking about the Japanese press.

      As I wrote above,  

      If you wish to report on what you think is important, by all means do. But do not try use manufactured Japanese concerns to support your position when it is not there.
      •  I do not read it that way (0+ / 0-)

        But of course both of us have a prime source of clarifying information on that question, readily at hand . . . . . . . .

        Dem . . .?

        •  you got it right (1+ / 0-)
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          i only read the english speaking Japanese press.

          Today's Japan english headlines:

          http://www.newseum.org/...

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 11:34:26 AM PDT

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          •  If you had simply written that to begin (0+ / 0-)

            with, I would agree with you:

            the English language Japan times is focusing too much on Fukushima.

            As Japanese do not read that paper, I think you've only furthered my initial criticism, that there a lot of people in America that will form notions about what a lot of people in Japan are thinking based upon, well, nothing.  

            •  thanks for the dialogue (1+ / 0-)
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              don't jump to unwarranted conclusions too quickly next time.

              "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

              by Greg Dworkin on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 01:06:41 PM PDT

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              •  Not quite (1+ / 0-)
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                I didn't jump.  You'd be better advised to state your sources more clearly and write more clearly.  Simply put, you introduced the paragraph in question with "The Japanese remember the WWII radiation experience all too well,"  

                That is you talking about what Japanese think.   Coupled with your speculations about what farmers think, my initial criticism stands:  And I can't help but think that there a lot of people in America that will form notions about what a lot of people in Japan are thinking based upon, well, nothing.

                If you want to do so, be my guest.  If you wish to report on what you think is important, by all means do.

                But do not try use manufactured Japanese concerns to support your position when it is not there.

              •  To that end (1+ / 0-)
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                You may find the following link usefull.

                http://www.kantei.go.jp/...

                It is the Prime Minister of Japan and His Cabinet Website,  English Language version.  It provides the official position of the Japanese govt.  and its concern.  You can see that the nuclear crisis is of concern to the Govt, amougst other things.

                On another matter, I wish to apologize for coming out swinging on this issue with you.  I am tired and taxed.  Though that is no excuse, I hope it at least offers a partial explanation.  

                I am, as I wrote below, disappointed and frustrated with the way in which the nuclear crisis has overshadowed the humanitarian one, particularly here at the dkos.  While that my be just my opinion, and you, obviously do not need my seal of approval for what you chose to right on, I do hope you remember to be cautious about conflating your concerns and priorities with the concerns and priorities of the Japanese government and the people of Japan.

                They clearly are not the same.

                Anyways, thanks for your time. I do appreciate it and once again sorry for being pugnacious.

                •  I can appreciate that! (2+ / 0-)
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                  and that's why I made sure to include a statement yesterday so that it would not go ignored. Had I access to today's headlines yesterday, I would have said >20,000 dead or missing instead of >10K.

                  "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                  by Greg Dworkin on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 01:43:42 PM PDT

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                •  today's APR (1+ / 0-)
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                  But let's not lose sight of the humanitarian side:
                     Japan quake dead, missing nears 21,000: Report

                  and for those who want to help, Charity Navigator sorts through who to give to, and where the money goes. See also the latest mothership for donation suggestions and the latest news.

                  but see headlines and relative font size.

                  "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                  by Greg Dworkin on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 04:28:30 AM PDT

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                  •  Yep. The Japan Times (0+ / 0-)
                  •   The Yomiuri Online's Current Web Page (0+ / 0-)

                    Leads:

                    原発3・4号機中央制御室の照明点灯  (23:16)福島原発
                    被災中国人、日本人が救助…中国外相が謝意 (21:38) 巨大地震
                    放射性物質の拡散予測公表せず、批判の声 (23:11) 福島原発
                    計画停電細分化、26日メドに公表…東電 (23:51) 計画停電
                    県民感情逆なで…統一選延期、対象拡大求める声 (00:10)
                    決断と実行に欠ける…被災の民主議員、政府批判 (22:05) 巨大地震
                    遺体搬送・埋葬数膨大、被災者支援に支障? (22:40) 巨大地震
                    「こんな時ですが…」広末涼子さん、男児出産 (21:17)

                    The bolded two are related to 福島 Fukushima.

                    The Nippon Keizei is currently leading with the Fukushima story.

            •  yeah, the Japan Times (2+ / 0-)
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              is an interesting paper but it's obviously directed toward the non-Japanese English-speaking reader.  It contains features on how to speak Japanese correctly, op-ed pieces which discuss culture issues and problems in Japan etc.  My husband and I enjoyed reading it when we visited Tokyo because the hotel was kind enough to give us a copy every morning.

              Plubius, it is understandable that you are concerned that Americans may ignore the terrible humanitarian crisis in Japan because the Western news is dominated by the nuclear plant story.  But if it weren't for the problems at Fukushima, the media would probably have largely left the Japanese disaster behind to concentrate on Libya.  So the continued coverage off the nuclear story may actually mean that people are more likely to contribute money to help out the Japanese than they would have been otherwise.  Just a guess on my part.

            •  one other thing (1+ / 0-)
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              I know, Plubius, that you are well aware of the content of the Japan Times.  I elaborated only in case somebody else happens to read my comment.  

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