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  •  Plubius, are you debating in good faith? (2+ / 0-)
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    evergreen2, Terranova0

    You keep insisting that attention to unfolding radiation fallout is unwarranted and misplaced -- and worst than that, you seem to be implying that a concern for the former somehow demonstrates a lack of concern for victims of the earthquake and tsunami.

    It's starting to look like you are trying to shame commenters to STFU and stifle their opinions about how the Fukushima crisis underscores the inherent high-stakes hazards of nuclear energy.

    Why don't you just talk about the aspects of the overall crisis that you want to focus on and let others do the same.

    •  I have no trouble (0+ / 0-)

      with people discussing the Fukushima crisis.  As a matter of fact, it is a good thing to reconsider our energy policy.

      I am disappointed with with the inordinate amount about Fukushima I see in the US media and the near singular focus here at the Dkos in terms of front page articles and diaries that make it to the rec list.

      I think this objective fact about the level of focus here at the dkos shows a profound lack of understanding of the scale of the humanitarian disaster currently unfolding in Japan.  Or at least, I would like to believe that and not that my fellow Kossacks are so inured to the suffering of their fellow man that they understand the scale of the problem and chose ignore it.  

      Or use it as an opportunity to make political hay.  I have heard the argument that now is the time to talk about nuclear power before it slips from the front page.  In my view, the plight of people in harms way and are in danger of dying if they do not get help soon, is by far the more pressing concern.

      I will remind you that a 80 year-old women was pulled out of a pile of rubble yesterday.  That makes the count 1 -0.  Fukushima loses.

      And then there are the who 14 died because they were evacuated  from a hospital where they were receiving medical care and transferred to a shelter where they got none.

      Kossacks don't know about these things.  Because they have been breathlessly posting and reposting speculations and rumors about what is going on at Fukushima.  

      This is not an issue of good faith.  It's a matter of priority:  people are dying. Right now.  Their plight needs to be known so they can be helped.  Right now.   Front pagers and this community have the ability to help people in dire need. Right now.  

      •  Plubius, again you denigrate and shame others (2+ / 0-)
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        in the process of advocating the position that the earthquake and tsunami should be of primary concern here at DK. You even come right out with nuclear industry talking points and say that our timely focus on the nuclear component is "making political hay".

        Here's the thing Plubius: we are in the midst of a real-time 'natural' disaster and a real-time nuclear disaster. We can't do much right here, right now to prevent another 'natural' disaster. But, we can do something right here, right now, that might help prevent another nuclear disaster; while also, hopefully, helping to insure that public officials and the industry do everything humanly possible to keep Fukushima from becoming a worst case scenario.

        I think it's somewhat analogous to how DK Gulf Watchers engaged with the BP Gulf Oil Spill while it was in progress.

        You also keep saying "zero" people have died at the Fukushima plant which may, or may not, really be true. However, the plant is clearly in the throes of an ongoing crisis with short-term and long-term health risks and fatalities that are still in the making -- for the people of Japan and for the world beyond.

        •  Meh (0+ / 0-)

          It is not a nuclear industry talking point: it is an open admission by more than on diarist I have talked with here.  If you like I can link you to one.

          As for your priorities, I will reiterate THERE IS NOTHING you can do about Tepco now. That is a Japanese show; they run it.

          There is something you can do about the people dying in Japan right now.

          And the focus of this site on the nuclear crisis has come at the expense of this community being made aware for the humanitarian crisis in Japan.

          •  Please, enough of the paternalism... (1+ / 0-)
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            Terranova0

            Plubius, you've made it abundantly clear that you feel Daily Kos is not giving enough 'balance' to all aspects of the situation in Japan. Even if that were the case, you are wrong to assume that your fellow Kossacks aren't capable of working the internets and the googles just as expertly as you are to fully inform ourselves of all the myriad aspects of the trifecta crisis.

            Instead of trying to endlessly redirect the subject of a thread such as this one, why don't you write a diary on the issues you deem to be uppermost, i.e. the humanitarian crisis ensuing from the earthquake and tsunami. Or, have you written one already?

            •  I don't "feel" Daily Kos is not giving enough (0+ / 0-)

              balance.

              It isn't.  That is the facts of the matter.

              As is also a fact that you should take the time to bother to check a poster's history before exhibiting your own histrionics.  

              And I am not talking about a genus of ducks....

              •  If they were not (1+ / 0-)
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                Plubius

                giving a balanced picture here, I'd be a nervous wreck. Trust me.  Thank goodness for folks on both sides of the issue for sharing their knowledge and informed opinions.

                “The most important trip you may take in life is meeting people halfway” ~ Henry Boye~

                by Terranova0 on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 04:17:57 PM PDT

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              •  Oh, I've heard more than enough from (0+ / 0-)

                you for one day, Plubius. So, I won't be perusing your "poster history" anytime soon.

                You accuse others of "histrionics", but you've proven yourself to be quite the master of "histrionics" right here in the limited space of this thread.

                You attack the author of this post with accusations of:

                [making] a demonstrably false statement...[engaging] in unsubstantiated speculation...manufacturing Japanese concerns ...

                You have said this about the DK community as a whole:

                I suppose my main criticism of what I've seen here the past week is it is precisely not empathy...Kossacks don't know about these things [the humanitarian crisis]. Because they have been breathlessly posting and reposting speculations and rumors about what is going on at Fukushima.

                I hope this isn't an indication of how you usually comport yourself day-to-day. Have a better one.

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