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  •  It isn't just that though (5+ / 0-)

    When people say we are in Libya, or where ever because of oil, it isn't just because of the oil, there are numerous other reasons, but oil is often the deciding factor.  And whatever you or I may think about the intervention in Libya, it most certainly is in some part because of the oil.

    I refuse to represent my political beliefs using numbers. It isn't accurate, nor is it helpful. But I'm around a -10 on both scales.

    by AoT on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 04:28:40 PM PDT

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    •  When you look at all the places (10+ / 0-)

      that are having humanitarian disasters and where we are NOT, there is always an absence of oil.


      •  Not true, Nigeria has oil and we could (3+ / 0-)
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        give a crap about them.  They've got a ongoing, horrible environmental disaster.

        I refuse to represent my political beliefs using numbers. It isn't accurate, nor is it helpful. But I'm around a -10 on both scales.

        by AoT on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 04:38:00 PM PDT

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      •  Kosovo had oil? (3+ / 0-)
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        " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

        by gchaucer2 on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 04:51:44 PM PDT

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        •  Pipeline (13+ / 0-)

          Depends on how you ask the question, or rather how George Monbiot of The Guardian would ask that question, from February 2001: Yes, It Was About Oil.

          During the Balkans war, some of the critics of NATO’s intervention alleged that the western powers were seeking to secure a passage for oil from the Caspian Sea. This claim was widely mocked. Robin Cook observed that “there is no oil in Kosovo.” This was, of course, true but irrelevant. His discovery was repeated by an eminent commentator for this paper, who clinched his argument by recording that the Caspian Sea is “half a continent away, lodged between Iran and Turkmenistan”.

          For the past few weeks, a freelance researcher called Keith Fisher has been doggedly documenting a project which has, as far as I can discover, yet to be reported in any British, European or US newspaper. It’s called the Trans-Balkan Pipeline, and it’s due for approval at the end of next month. Its purpose is to secure a passage for oil from the Caspian Sea.

          Others have noted this too:

          Kosovo does not have oil but its location is strategic as the trans-Balkan pipeline - known as AMBO pipeline after its builder and operator the US-registered Albanian Macedonian Bulgarian Oil Corporation - will pass through it...

          In 2000, the United States Government’s Trade and Development Agency financed a feasibility study of pipeline which updated and enlarged the project's original feasibility study dating from early 1996. Brown & Root Energy Services, a wholly-owned British subsidiary of Halliburton completed the original feasibility study for this project...

          The US Trade and Development Agency's paper published May 2000, which assesses that the pipeline is a US strategic interest. According to the paper, the pipeline will provide oil and gas to the US market worth $600m a month, adding that the pipeline is necessary because the oil coming from the Caspian sea will quickly surpass the safe capacity of the Bosphorus...

          The pipeline itself, the agency says, has also been formally supported "since 1994". The first feasibility study, backed by the US, was conducted in 1996.

          Pipeline is expected to be operational in 2013, its 2 years behind schedule. Take it for what it's worth.

      •  More than a third of the world's countries (2+ / 0-)
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        have oil. Yemen has oil and has a little war going on and we're not there. There is oil in the Sudan but we don't have a presence there, do we? We're in Mexico fighting a war with alongside the mexican government and Mexico has oil yet no one ever assumes we're there for that purpose. Could it be that it's just too easy a thing to say?

      •  Well, no. Sometimes we create the (0+ / 0-)

        humanitarian disasters to gain or regain access to oil.

        On the other side of ..."Taghyir" or "Change" Square, others stripped off their jackets and advanced towards the gunfire, pointing towards their an invitation to shoot.

        by JesseCW on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 07:02:51 PM PDT

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      •  Uganda has a murderous madman, Joseph Kony (0+ / 0-)
        The cult-like Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) has rampaged across northern Uganda for the past two decades and has in recent years spread to neighbouring countries, abducting and killng tens of thousands as well as displacing more than 1.5 million. It has been described as one of the most effective guerrilla armies in Africa.

        AND it has plenty of oil, recently discovered. Too soon to be on the oil radar.

        This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS

        by Agathena on Mon Mar 21, 2011 at 08:10:36 PM PDT

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