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  •  So the gist of this is (1+ / 0-)
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    that Qaddafi has enabled the US to play neo-colonial imperialistic games by exploiting the situation he created.

    But, in what way exactly is the US taking advantage of the plight of the Libyan people at this time?

    I mean if the most that can be said is that the US is saving lives in Libya in exchange for future influence over Libya, then this would be one of the most benevolent kind of foreign policies you can get. It is natural for the benefactor to hope for gratitude.

    •  It "would be", yes... (0+ / 0-)

      Can you point to any reliable realistic numbers of Libyan "lives saved" by the missiles and bombs thus far?

      Can you point to any past instances of benevolent US "humanitarian interventions" that have turned out well for the recipients?

      Besides that, what would the reaction in America be to foreign countries intervening and bombing US government and military installations ostensibly on humanitarian behalf of Americans who don't like their government, in the expectation of "influence" over Americas future? Would they reasonably expect "gratitude"?

      Antemedius | Liberally Critical Thinking

      by Edger on Wed Mar 23, 2011 at 03:01:04 PM PDT

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        Can you point to any past instances of benevolent US "humanitarian interventions" that have turned out well for the recipients?

        It happens sometimes. The liberation of the jewish death camps from the nazis is one example; the intervention in Kosovo seems to have worked well for the Kosovars as well.

        what would the reaction in America be to foreign countries intervening and bombing US government and military installations ostensibly on humanitarian behalf of Americans who don't like their government, in the expectation of "influence" over Americas future? Would they reasonably expect "gratitude"?

        If the Americans were revolting against an oppressive government that used deadly force against unarmed civilians in urban centers in order to quash the revolution by terrorizing the population, and if a council of American revolutionary leaders requested foreign intervention in order to protect their lives and assist them in the overthrow of their oppressive government then yes, the foreign intervenors could reasonably expect gratitude. Such is the case here.

        •  And if that foreign intervention was done (0+ / 0-)

          in the expectation of "influence" over Americas future?

          Antemedius | Liberally Critical Thinking

          by Edger on Wed Mar 23, 2011 at 06:31:53 PM PDT

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        •  Yesterday a US fighter crashed (0+ / 0-)

          on a farm in Libya. One of the pilots was rescued by locals who took him into Benghazi to get them to the rebel leadership.

          They say were then attacked and fired upon by a US  team on the ground in Benghazi?


          March 23, 2011
          Libyan civilians injured in US pilot rescue
          Channel 4: After hosting a party for a stricken U.S. pilot, Libyan civilians are fired upon and injured by U.S. rescue team.

          Antemedius | Liberally Critical Thinking

          by Edger on Wed Mar 23, 2011 at 07:01:00 PM PDT

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