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  •  I thought I just read something about Walker (17+ / 0-)

    wanjting to privatize some jails in Wisconsin.  I could be wrong and will have to do further research and see if I can find it.

    CCA is now poised to take over prisons in Maine under the new Republican majority there.  The Governor says he want to "look into privatizing Maine's prisons":

    "Last month, LePage nominated Joseph Ponte, who recently worked for Corrections Corp. of America as a warden in Nevada, for corrections commissioner. LePage said that Ponte’s nomination was not an indication that he would privatize Maine’s prison system, but he did say that he may allow a private prison company to build a facility in Maine to house inmates from other states."
     Can anyone recognize the similarity here between what is happening in Ohio and Maine?  Both appointed a former CCA warden to the position of heading up their state's prison system - and both are now talking about privatization.

    Even as we expose their insidious agenda to exploit prisoners and profit from tax dollars for doing it, they go right along - state by state, furthering that agenda.

    Bastages I say...BASTAGES! :)

    "Inmates should be reformed - not recycled"

    by Bob Sloan on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 04:29:44 PM PDT

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    •  At the very beginning of the protests in WI, (9+ / 0-)

      one of Walker's first moves was to ready the National Guard and the question was, why?

      I remember seeing a prison guard on MSNBC (Last Word, I think) who speculated that Walker was preparing to lay off the guards and replace with National Guard as an interim measure leading to privatization.

      This Diary is a real eye opener for me as didn't know the cast of characters...and they are scary.

      Thanks so much!

      May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

      by msmacgyver on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 05:30:47 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for coming by for a chat on the issues (8+ / 0-)

        that are of much importance in today's society.

        One important prison topic that hasn't received much attention or discussion is that of Abu Ghraib and the torture and atrocities that occurred there.  What came out of that investigation and the articles reporting upon that embarrassment, was the fact that many of the National Guard members who participated in those acts, were prison guards in their home states.  At the time there were problems with prison staffers here in the states, but not nearly to the extent of today.

        I think if we would have caught it then, and taken the appropriate action instead of trying to sweep it under the rug, or justify the acts as some Militarists did, we and the prisoners we have put away would both be safer.

        That administration tried hard to first hide the acts taken in the name of our Nation and when that became impossible, they diligently attempted to try and justify and thus condone much of the torture that occurred.  I think this latter was interpreted by many as actually a lessening of our standards of treatment of those we consider criminals - or POWs.  This interpretation allow today's prison staffers to somehow believe such behavior is in some form acceptable to a large segment of our society and believing that, they commit this kind of criminal acts assuming there will be no uprising due to their actions.  Just a thought as to why it is so prevalent today.

        "Inmates should be reformed - not recycled"

        by Bob Sloan on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 06:22:23 PM PDT

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        •  If you're not familiar with this (6+ / 0-)

          experiment, you might find this info helpful:

          A Simulation Study of the Psychology of Imprisonment Conducted at Stanford University

          Welcome to the Stanford Prison Experiment web site, which features an extensive slide show and information about this classic psychology experiment, including parallels with the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. What happens when you put good people in an evil place? Does humanity win over evil, or does evil triumph? These are some of the questions we posed in this dramatic simulation of prison life conducted in the summer of 1971 at Stanford University.

          How we went about testing these questions and what we found may astound you. Our planned two-week investigation into the psychology of prison life had to be ended prematurely after only six days because of what the situation was doing to the college students who participated. In only a few days, our guards became sadistic and our prisoners became depressed and showed signs of extreme stress. Please join me on a slide tour describing this experiment and uncovering what it tells us about the nature of human nature.

          May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

          by msmacgyver on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 07:46:00 PM PDT

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          •  The wife and I have discussed this experiment on (6+ / 0-)

            several occasions over the past few years.  We seem to agree that the giving of power of one over another, transforms that one with the power.  Subtly at first and gradually his/her behavior becomes more oppressive, dominant and even worse when they realize there is no one the other can complain to or provide help for them.

            I stand by the old adage that "absolute power - corrupts absolutely."  As Conservatives and their corporate benefactors and funders assume more and more power and influence, it will only get worse.

            If we compare where Libya, India, Bahrain and many other nations and their societies are today, one can easily see a perfect example of the absolute power concept; the people under rule by those dictatorial authoritarian governments have no where to turn and no one to complain to or come to their aid or assistance.  If the U.S. continues on the path of late we are headed in that direction and when we arrive we'll find corporate owners sitting upon the throne.  We will be in that same boat if this happens.

            Keep in mind as we move to make efforts of assisting those in India and elsewhere, the Republicants objected to our interference, stalled and wanted to prevent our actions by holding hearings, votes, etc...anything to stall our providing assistance.  I think their hesitancy is due to an unspoken belief that there is nothing wrong with totally controlling an entire society - if you're the one in control.

            "Inmates should be reformed - not recycled"

            by Bob Sloan on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 08:07:24 PM PDT

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            •  I think there are many components (7+ / 0-)

              to the psyche which contribute to becoming either a sadistic 'guard' or a benevolent 'caretaker'.

              I'm horrified by the impact that hate talk radio and Fox has had on the American collective consciousness. Both have been around for many, many years and more than enough time to infect an entire generation of listeners/viewers from young kids to their grandparents.

              It's fair to assume that this segment of the population would very quickly become sadistic guards.  I'd like to think that those who reject this culture of dehumanization would act as benevolent caretakers.

              The republican party took a wicked turn which I believe corresponds first with the co-opting of the religious right wing. Today's republican party has moved into even more dangerous territory with the inclusion of the Baggers and the pseudo-conservatives.

              The protests in WI awakened so many of us who needed to be reminded that we aren't helpless and do have recourse if we only unite, stand together and protest peacefully.  We saw protesters thanking the cops and international donations for pizza.

              Walker and his 'guards' became thugs and are incapable of recovering their lost advantage.

              May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

              by msmacgyver on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 08:52:22 PM PDT

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              •  I agree and admit that I have written about the (4+ / 0-)
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                "Conversion" of many conservatives to far right wing evangelical concepts and the impact this has had upon the Republican party as well as our society.  The merger of the two ideologies has led to opening the door to political participation and politicking for the religious right.

                Today religious groups, foundations and organizations are involved in everything government and political.  Most non-conservative candidates are asked over and over again what their religious beliefs and practices are  - rather than what their political stance is on issues.  Religious preferences have become more important in election cycles than social issues.

                That party opened the door to both the Tea Baggers and the evangelicals and now have to live among them and more or less adopt some or most of the agenda favored by both.  I say this because by accepting these fringe factions into the R party, they have driven many more moderate R's out of the party altogether.  They have to now cater to those that replaced the moderates to retain a semblance of an actual political party.  If they don't adapt, the party will cease to exist as a political power and they'll lose their influence and position to Independents and Democrats.

                "Inmates should be reformed - not recycled"

                by Bob Sloan on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 09:27:09 PM PDT

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    •  Privatization is the last refuge of (0+ / 0-)

      public officials who don't want to be responsible for the obligations of their official positions.

      by hannah on Sun Mar 27, 2011 at 10:08:37 AM PDT

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