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  •  Performance Pay Cannot Work in US (5+ / 0-)
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    Public schools by law must educate each and every child who walks through their doors. But instead of incentivizing teachers to teach the children with the greatest need, PfP incentivizes teachers to cheat (see recent reports), to exclude low performing students and to try and teach only to those with the least demonstrable need.  Schools in my area transferred out, suspended, expelled, dis-enrolled and in a few cases just told students to stay home on test day all so they could maximize test scores. Once a teacher's livelihood depends on test scores it will only get worse...

    •  Ravitch (0+ / 0-)

      Diane Ravitch had a good take on Merit Pay this week in her Bridging Differences blog.

      It is curious that teachers vigorously oppose merit pay, even though they are the ones who are supposed to reap the rewards. What do they know? They know that merit pay undermines collaboration and teamwork. They know that it corrupts the culture of the school.

      I think that teachers "vigorously oppose" PfP, merit pay, and any expansion of testing is simple...


      If you want to know more about something, wouldn't you ask an expert?

      When will society begin to listen to the real reformers, TEACHERS?  We aren't protecting the status quo, we're calling for radical changes that would enable more learning to take place.  The status quo is continuing with our current failed policies.

      Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government. Thomas Jefferson

      by iTeachQ on Thu Mar 31, 2011 at 06:32:50 PM PDT

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    •  I think the countries with merit pay (0+ / 0-)

      Also provide for the education of all students and would have similar problems with individual cheating.

      For systems without merit pay, some would argue that retaining very ineffective teachers is also a form of cheating.

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Thu Mar 31, 2011 at 06:41:50 PM PDT

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      •  Re: Inneffective (0+ / 0-)

        You'll never hear a teacher advocating for ineffective teachers.  Or protecting "ineffective" educators.

        Our evaluation systems need to take test scores into account, but as one of the many measures of teacher performance.

        Using a multiple rating system with multiple domains would have a better chance of improving learning than a single measure and a single merit system.

        Merit pay alone will NEVER make learning better, nor will it weed out ineffective teachers (as you suggest).

        Testing creates ineffective teaching methods.  Heck, I now sound like the President.

        Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government. Thomas Jefferson

        by iTeachQ on Thu Mar 31, 2011 at 06:55:57 PM PDT

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