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View Diary: The Irrational Fear of Nukes - A German Perspective (262 comments)

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  •  debatable (0+ / 0-)

    You have to build models to come up with those numbers, and the sources and assumptions you use are open to debate. I've read the papers he cites and self-cites, which includes things like hypothetical nuclear war in the cost of commercial nuclear power and the cities burning in the CO2 calculation.

    •  Show me a nice, neutral study (4+ / 0-)
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      mamamedusa, Earth Ling, citisven, IM

      (if such thing even exists) that makes a conclusive case against the possibility of powering the world with renewables by, say, 2050.  Every study in the area of future energy policy is (a) going to make assumptions and use models and (b) is debatable.

      Pro-nuclear studies don't take into account the artificial methods used to reduce the cost of producing electricity via nuclear, and heavily discount the clear and potential externalities associated with nuclear power; AND make completely unproven assumptions concerning storage of waste.

      •  I don't think it's impossible (0+ / 0-)

        But likewise I'm tired of handwaving about HVDC transmission, smart grids, and storage. I'm 100% for renewables as much as I'm for the nuclear status quo and possible expansion. My concern is carbon in the atmosphere, I am technology neutral. Some systems have been already been proven to work on the scale necessary, others show promise but are having difficulty with scalability. Both renewables and nuclear have problems with speed of scale up, and availability of certain metals. Whatever gets us there. Alot of people working in this field have particular ideological axes to grind and pet technologies, and I too would like to see everyone acknowledge the huge amounts of uncertainty involved in all of their projections (you don't see this in press releases.) It points to a "try everything" approach, not trying to come up with new metrics to depress the statistics of things you don't like.

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