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    You don't think that asking students to do math problems is a good measure of whether they can do math problems?

    If not, you have to come up with the links.

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    by Sparhawk on Sat Apr 02, 2011 at 09:09:54 PM PDT

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    •  I think it's a test... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...of precisely that: Whether or not they can do math problems.

      What it isn't a test of is whether or not they know how to use math, whether or not they understand math, or whether or not they've developed a love of math. It's a test of whether they know which bubble to fill in on a form when given a math problem.

      It's also not a test of how well they've been taught math, as their ability to do math problems could be affected by any number of factors outside the classroom, to say nothing of the distinct possibility—particularly in disadvantaged schools—that the classroom itself is too crowded, or doesn't have A/C, or doesn't have toilet paper in the bathrooms.

      Furthermore, math is an easier subject to test—what with all those right and wrong answers that can be more or less reduced to options on a scantron form—than, say, writing or reading.

      Finally, how do you propose we measure "outcomes" for art classes? Music? Physical education? Creative writing? We're seeing schools dropping these things bit by bit as the standardized tests only reward the "teaching" (if any enterprise that involves a scantron standardized test can truly be described as "teaching," which I very much doubt) of reading (sorta) and math.

      What happens to the other things that are necessary to produce good citizens, good critical thinkers, creative people, and generally good human beings? Anything that isn't being rewarded—or, as the Education Deformers usually have it, anything that isn't being used as a basis for punishment, because they're interested in breaking public education as a whole in order to replace it with a for-profit corporate model that will make their paymasters rich—won't be taught.

      The Republican corporate standardized testing regime is—as anything else associated with Republicans and the Republican Education Deform movement—irredeemably corrupt and 100% antithetical to anything a democratic citizenry would describe as true public education.

    •  Word problems (1+ / 0-)
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      Tom Taaffe

      Asking an 8 year old to do word problems for three solid days, when that child is an ELL and the word problems are poorly worded is not a good test of anything.

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