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  •  Interesting... (4+ / 0-)
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    I'm sitting here, diddling with Mahler's 9th, the Solti recording, trying to see if I can find some way to dink it so that Youtube's automatic "third party content identifier" algorithm doesn't identify it as Sony material.  They'll publish it either way, but if I can find some small way to tweak it, I'll get better statistics info.

    I put the third movement through a program that will speed it up by 5.9%, (which works out to the same as raising the pitch a half note), but that little tiny increase in speed is enough to drastically change the sound for me, not because of the pitch, but because it's just recognizably faster, enough to be uncomfortable to my ears that have heard this a gazillion times!

    Must find a different way to tweak it.

    •  You have a good ear (4+ / 0-)
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      I have often loved certain pieces of music done one way and not been happy with changes, but...

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      by cfk on Sat May 21, 2011 at 05:52:48 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, it's funny. (5+ / 0-)
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        I didn't think I could be so finicky that I would notice it so much, but I do!

        I read somewhere that a 5% change in speed, up or down, would usually defeat the third party content thing.  I chose 5.9% because it's one of those magic numbers of music.   Two to the one-twelfth power.  

        Now I'm wondering if some random noise might do the trick, like the old vinyl pop/snap sounds.

        •  back in the day when..... (2+ / 0-)
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          ....I'd tape stuff off the radio, it'd be odd to play the tapes back on a different machine, which had ever so different sound.

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          by chingchongchinaman on Sun May 22, 2011 at 12:08:48 AM PDT

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    •  interesting, since so many people upload..... (2+ / 0-)
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      ......on YouTube classical recordings with their own separate videos, so one wonders about the sound source and what would display information-wise.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Sun May 22, 2011 at 12:08:12 AM PDT

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      •  Here's an interesting article/blog post (1+ / 0-)
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        on the subject by somebody that did a number of experiments to see what defeated it.  (That's where I got the 5% number, btw).  I haven't found anything else on the Internet with good suggestions on defeating it.

        It turns out, even youtube clips that DON'T rely on the music, clips that just have copyrighted music in the background, like a party with Lady Gaga music in the background, can and do trigger the third party content warning.  Not just that, but I've seen complaints by people that upload their own kids' piano Chopin recitals that the recitals trigger warnings.  So it's a little too sensitive.  

        Yet a 5% increase in speed (without a change in pitch, mind you -- audio programs can do that now, although it affects the sound quality slightly) is enough to get around it.  

        It is also apparently able to work around white noise.  At the link specified, he had to boost the background noise to 45% in order to avoid the match.

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        In other news, I got the whole Solti recording, all four movements, posted to Youtube last night.  (I'm DumboDog).  I got the third party content warning, but it said that the clips would still be public although they reserve the right to put ads on the clip page.  Sounds fair to me.  I wonder if that's how everybody else manages it.

        AND...  As I was uploading this stuff, I got the message suddenly that I am allowed to post clips now that are longer than 15 minutes!  I don't know how the longest are.  I tried to upload a 31 minute clip (the entire first movement), but that busted with file too long, and then I lost my >15min privvies for a couple of hours, possibly as a result, although I'm not sure.  Maybe it just takes a while for the Youtube servers to catch up with a change in privs.  From what I can tell googling this, it's likely the increase in time is because I've had an active Youtube account with clips for a couple of years without incident.  

        •  more opportunity for YT to..... (1+ / 0-)
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          .....crash, perhaps, with the huge files there that can now get even huger, I suppose.  I actually finally managed to watch a whole movie on YouTube, speaking of self-described loserness.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Sun May 22, 2011 at 08:36:07 PM PDT

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          •  Oh, no, the increase in clip size (0+ / 0-)

            is a rare privilege.  Most people are limited to <15 min.

            •  true enough (1+ / 0-)
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              Dumbo

              I've even found audio clips that are 90 minutes long (i.e., the length of Mahler 9.....ahem).  Of course, it probably helps that the visual part is minimal, leaving room for the data to be occupied more by the audio part.

              "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

              by chingchongchinaman on Tue May 24, 2011 at 09:47:31 PM PDT

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