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  •  "Electability is irrelevant"?? (1+ / 0-)
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    mmacdDE

    You've gotta be kidding me.

    Ask George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis or John Kerry about how "irrelevant" electability is...

    The Republican Party is Michael Douglas. The Tea Party is Glenn Close

    by Jank2112 on Mon Apr 04, 2011 at 01:24:58 PM PDT

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    •  You got Hubert in the wrong list (1+ / 0-)
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      He was highly electable and lost by a narrow margin in an extremely difficult year.

      As for the others it doesn't matter. Clinton and Obama administrations (they were so electable because they were, well, elected) saw major setbacks for those of us who claim to be on the left at least those of us concerned with class struggle. Culturally those Presidents were better than the alternative but that's it. So I don't think electability is very important. What is important is political power--the ability to influence leaders who are, after all, only power brokers--power is not necessarily have anything to do with elective office. Richard Nixon was the last progressive President and he had to veer left because the left had power in those days--they still could put a hurt on the oligarchs and pols. No longer true today.

      •  McGovern was our Goldwater. (0+ / 0-)

        Too bad the Dems didn't see that.  But then no one could see it in 1973.  

        OTOH, everybody ought to have seen it by 1981.  But by then the Dem behavior pattern was already established, I guess.  If the Dems had just stuck with the McGovern platform (and healed the rift with Big Labor), who knows where we'd be now?  Don't tell me the GOP would've had power all this time--eventually the American electorate would've given the Dems a turn.  Surely more would've gotten done under Carter if the Dems had been more unified.  But even then it was "what if the Dems screw up health care reform??  Better not take the chance..."

        The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early....Well, what are we waiting for? There's no deadline on a dream!

        by Panurge on Wed Apr 06, 2011 at 06:48:05 PM PDT

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