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  •  Imperialism Happens Today (3+ / 0-)
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    Robobagpiper, Edger, Rich in PA

    ...as we speak/write. It is not a relic from the past.

    Action is the antidote to despair---Joan Baez

    by frandor55 on Tue Apr 05, 2011 at 09:44:50 AM PDT

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    •  That is not what I said... (0+ / 0-)

      at all.  Why twist my words?  

    •  Imperialism is real and this is imperialism (0+ / 0-)

      I absolutely agree with that.  If you can't imagine the situation being reversed--Libya intervening in the US--then it's imperialism, period.

      The question is whether imperialism is always the worst thing, to the point where we toss out other considerations.  My view is that you can have a regime that is so repulsive, in terms of what it does to its people and perhaps other people, that an imperialist intervention can be justified on utilitarian grounds.  The reflexive view that imperialism is literally the worst thing in the world, to the point that any situation should be accepted if its only remedy is imperialism, strikes me as profoundly anti-humanist even though imperialism itself is an anti-humanist ideology.

      Todo tiempo pasado fue mejor. I don't believe that, but I hear this sig is permanent.

      by Rich in PA on Tue Apr 05, 2011 at 10:30:46 AM PDT

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      •  Not just utilitarian... (0+ / 0-)

        but also humanitarian, although I can quibble with your first paragraph as the criterion.

        •  Utilitarian in the sense of weighing humanitarian (0+ / 0-)

          ...benefits in the here-and-now against the negative impact of strengthening imperialism into the future.  It's kind of like dumping sea water on exposed nuclear fuel.  You can't not do it, but you end up with a huge mess.

          Todo tiempo pasado fue mejor. I don't believe that, but I hear this sig is permanent.

          by Rich in PA on Tue Apr 05, 2011 at 10:59:38 AM PDT

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