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  •  The richest part... (4.00)
    ....are the lines he spoke before egaging in this tirade against all of us he'd like to bomb to hell:

    Gibbons segued into an attack on "liberals," who he said were trying to divide the unity of the country in a time of war.

    He wondered what Lincoln's feelings would be at this juncture of American history.

    "How would he feel, what would he be thinking about, all of the dissension, all of the division, that the liberals and a few others, including some our movie stars and song makers, are trying to divide this country over its efforts to establish freedom and liberty in countries around the world?" Gibbons questioned.

    •  Lincoln would be thinking about... (4.00)
      sending general Sherman to burn Gibbons' district.

      The Republican Party: We get government off your back, and drop it on your head.

      by ben masel on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 02:19:32 PM PST

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    •  I'd say (4.00)
      that Lincoln would be proud of the Democrats for questioning the President and standing up for what's right and he would be ashamed of what the Republicans have become.
    •  Uh-huh (4.00)
      "We are all here tonight because men and women of the United States military have given their lives for our freedom," Gibbons continued. "We are here tonight not because of Rosie O'Donnell Dick Cheney, Martin Sheen Donald Rumsfeld, George Clooney Paul Wolfowitz, Jane Fonda Condoleeza Rice or Phil Donahue George Bush - they never sacrificed their lives for us or for liberty."
      •  Notice how.. (4.00)
        Notice how the GOP never mentions all the Democrats who put their lives on the line for this country during a war : John Kerry, Max Cleland, Bob Kerrey,
        John F. Kennedy, among many others. More Democrats in the media, in the Congress, served in the military and during War than Republicans. People like Rush, Hannity, Cheney, Bush haven't a clue as well as Hastert, Frist, and other who claimed they had something better to do than go to war or join the military. There was a list circulating on the net around the election of the comparison of GOP vs Democrats of who served in the military. Democrats in prominent positions in Government who served in the military and went to War FAR outweigh..almost 2 to 1 Republicans who served.
        Republicans are such Big War Hawks but most of the Neo Con War Hawks never served. They are damn cowards willing to sacrifice someone else to war but never themselves
    •  So, let me get this straight (4.00)
      We're trying to establish freedom and liberty in other nations, but when one actually acts upon one's freedoms and liberties, that's divisive and wrong?

      What the fuck?

      •  it's only divisive and wrong (none)
        ...if you're one of them "liberal, tree-hugging, Birkenstock-wearing, hippie, tie-dyed liberals."

        It gets better though:

        "If they want to be human shields, I say let them serve the men and women of honest integrity that epitomize courage and embody the spirit of freedom by wearing the proud uniform of the United States military," Gibbons said.

        So our soldiers are human shields. Hmm.

        Continuing that thought, he finishes his spit and venom sermon with:

        "What greater love has man than he lays down his life for his friend - or in this case, his country," Gibbons said in conclusion.

        If that sounds familiar but you can't place it, that's John 15:13.


        •  Checklist (4.00)
          Liberal -- check
          Tree-hugging -- not recently, prefer spouse-hugging
          Birkenstock-wearing -- no
          Hippie -- my hair is long, but I'm female so that's okay
          Tie-dye -- no (looks sucky on me)
          Liberal -- already covered that (you're repeating yourself, Jim)

          Guess my credentials only get me as far as France...

          "It's an unnerving thought that we may be the living universe's supreme achievement and its worst nightmare simultaneously." -- Bill Bryson

          by Cali Scribe on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 04:05:40 PM PST

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        •  screwin' over christ (none)
          good lord, yr right. this guy, who i was almost ready to lift one languid hand to defend ("Ah, it was Lincoln Day in Elko at the ole GOPHQ; nothing but preaching to the choir. Boys just needed to let off a little steam..."), has actually seen fit to rewrite the bible! if christ had meant that there was no greater love than laying down yr life for yr country, i trust that my lord & savior would have said exactly that!

          while i try not to get into generic repub-bashing ( i live among a great number of them and know that in the majority, they're decent folk who don't whip their dogs or beat their children past prudence), if you take that last line and look at it, you see a classic example of the GOP switcheroo- set something up with noble language (the bible's pretty chock-full of that kind of stuff; other examples could come from the constitution, pre-post-lit (i.e. non-21st century writing) political speech, etc.) and then insert "or in this case, his country."

          the totemic nationalism is what scares me- part of the same mindset that gives the legal rights of corporations more weight than the legal rights of poor schmucks that are only citizens.

          might be amusing to see gibbons defending his rewrite of the bible to a passion fan asking if the roman soldier driving in the nails during the crucifixion was "graced" by no greater love if he later got killed protecting rome from terrorist threats. or, is gibbons a secret pan-culturalist, asking us to see the abhorrent suicide bombings that plague iraq as expressions of a "greater love"- a man laying down his life for a friend, or (all together now) "in this case, his country"?

          my old man, a man of the cloth AND a man of god (late of the old country, tragic de-frocking, passage to the states and then hiring on with the protestants back during the boom of the mid-50's) would be twirling in his grave over this gibbon's rewritings of scripture.

    •  Lincoln would blow a big raspberry at Gibbons (none)
      I love how Gibbons resorting to those traditional scapegoats, "movie stars and song makers."  As opposed to talk-show hosts and Faux news pundits, who are the REAL causes of bitter division.

      And freedom and liberty?  Dude, please.  Bush only spreads "freedom and liberty" where there's oil--which is why he doesn't have the time of day for Sudan.

      When you couldn't get a real journalism job, there's Fox News.

      by The Truffle on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 04:50:26 PM PST

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    •  What Lincoln Thinks (none)
      Lincoln would be thinking, "I saved the union so that some schmuck in the White House could pretend to know something about the military? Give me a break! If he had any clue what I went through for four years plus, he'd have taken a pass! Oh, and by the way, Georgey Boy, I took a bullet for what I did. So, stay out of the theatre, if you know what I mean."

      Liberal Thinking

      Think, liberally.

      by Liberal Thinking on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 11:38:05 PM PST

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