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  •  Which project are you referring to? (8+ / 0-)

    The US has had a particularly dysfunctional relationship with nuclear issues. It hasn't even figured out what to do with the waste that's been accumulating for these many years. The bomb plants have lots of high level waste, some of which is stored in questionable circumstances.
    Soon America will have to start decommissioning nuke plants, but I would guess ten to fifteen years would work if they have somewhere to put the waste. Who wants it though?

    "I almost died for the international monetary system; what the hell is that?" ~ The In-laws

    by Andhakari on Sun Apr 17, 2011 at 11:11:40 AM PDT

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    •  Connecticut and Maine Yankee are both (10+ / 0-)

      24 year projects, Millstone is scheduled for 2056! Indian Point One, closed in 74, will be done in 2026.

      "The people I distrust the most are those who want to improve our lives but have only one course of action" Frank Herbert

      by the fan man on Sun Apr 17, 2011 at 12:08:08 PM PDT

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      •  Amazing (6+ / 0-)

        I saw a reference the other day about US government official suggesting that Japanese could probably decommission a nuke plant more cheaply than it could be done in America. Maybe that's what he was talking about.
        What's the hold-up? Just dithering, or do they have some serious technical problems?

        "I almost died for the international monetary system; what the hell is that?" ~ The In-laws

        by Andhakari on Sun Apr 17, 2011 at 12:35:36 PM PDT

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      •  US Plants: Decommissioned Slowly On Purpose (6+ / 0-)

        Why it takes so long is there is no rush. No need for (expensive) overtime work. The crews doing this work are very small. It's nothing like building a new plant or re-fueling an active unit.  The land is not going to be re-sold or reused so a slow, meticulous process seems to work.

        Things that are contaminated* are cleaned if possible and then disposed of. If the contamination is fixed, it must then be scrapped as nuclear waste.

        When we speak of no place to store nuclear waste, it is the high level stuff aka spent fuel rods. Piping, valves and other low level waste are being disposed of on a daily basis.

        *Contamination is radioactivity where you don't want it / expect it. Decommissioned

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        by Gilmore on Sun Apr 17, 2011 at 06:45:51 PM PDT

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        •  Don't labor, fuel and material costs increase over (2+ / 0-)
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          time? I mean, construction takes as little time as possible w/o sacrificing safety or adding overtime. Why isn't the reverse true? In that sense, why do other countries do this more quickly?

          "The people I distrust the most are those who want to improve our lives but have only one course of action" Frank Herbert

          by the fan man on Mon Apr 18, 2011 at 07:19:32 AM PDT

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        •  Hell, they can (5+ / 0-)
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          make  money off that 'low level' waste by selling it to Siemens for their nifty Nuclear Flea Market in used pieces-parts. Like, for instance, TMI-2's slightly used generator that had been sitting in the middle of the Susquehanna River for ~35 years. Siemens then sold it to the Shearon-Harris plant near Raleigh, NC so they could get an 'extra' 6 megawatts of generation capacity from the plant (the same amount they could have gotten with just 3 1.5 Mw wind turbines). Siemens in turn got Shearon-Harris' generator, which it sold to a lesser rated nuke out west anxious to up its power rating with MOX fuel.

          Nifty how that works, eh? So  much for "the best of the best" in engineering and highest quality pieces-parts.

          Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

          by Joieau on Mon Apr 18, 2011 at 09:53:14 AM PDT

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    •  The actual nuclear waste (1+ / 0-)
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      is the responsibility of the US Department of Energy whose plan was Yucca Mnt--the current administration defunded it and established a Blue Ribbon Commission working on solutions

      You can offer your opinion here

      As for the other waste--Energy Solutions claims it can accommodate all the waste generated by the 104 operating plants in the US at it's Utah site

      AspiringtobethepersonmydogthinksIam

      by FOYI on Sun Apr 17, 2011 at 01:05:59 PM PDT

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      •  Germany depot closed 33 years showing (8+ / 0-)

        radioactivity 24 times above allowable limit.

        Dramatic increase in radiation found at German nuclear waste depot

        The former salt mine holds some 127,000 containers with low and medium-grade radioactive waste, placed there from 1967 to 1978. Plans are under way to retrieve the containers, but experts first need to ascertain their condition

        My emphasis.

        What can Japan possibly do with their waste which isn't just kicking the can down the road? Or us, for that matter?

        (Let me know, people, if this kind of comment is too far off topic for the ROV. Thank you.)


        Until we break the corporate virtual monopoly on what we hear and see, we keep losing, don't matter what we do.

        by Jim P on Sun Apr 17, 2011 at 05:14:16 PM PDT

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