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  •  what has happened? (9+ / 0-)

    What usually happens in the end game of the decline and fall of an empire.

    The wealthy captured the political process and are now using the governments they bought as a tool for looting the nation, after which they figure on being wealthy expats in a place they have not ruined.

    While this has been going on at least since Reagan, what's happened in the last few months is that the looting has become open and notorious.

    Peak Oil is NOW! Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

    by alizard on Tue Apr 19, 2011 at 05:05:27 PM PDT

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    •  alizard? Are you familiar w/Dmitry Orlov's work? (2+ / 0-)
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      I just discovered him yesterday. I think everyone in this country needs to hear his message. He explains what you just described in a cogent way. He offers suggestions on how to survive what he beleives (as do I) the complete collapse of the American Empire. We're watching it dissolve before our eyes.

      Here is a link to a 2 hr program from Fora.tv:

      FORA.tv Series:

      Long Term Thinking at the Long Now Foundation
      Dmitry Orlov: Social Collapse Best Practices

      So that’s what we have now. The ship is on the rocks, water is rising, and the captain is shouting “Full steam ahead! We are sailing to Afghanistan!”

      Do you listen to Ahab up on the bridge, or do you desert your post in the engine room and go help deploy the lifeboats?

      If you thought that the previous episode of uncontrolled debt expansion, globalized Ponzi schemes, and economic hollowing-out was silly, then I predict that you will find this next episode of feckless grasping at macroeconomic straws even sillier.

      Except that it won’t be funny: what is crashing now is our life support system: all the systems and institutions that are keeping us alive. And so I don’t recommend passively standing around and watching the show – unless you happen to have a death wish.

      Transcript from his blog Club Orlov here.

      •  I've read some of Orlov's articles (2+ / 0-)
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        If I had kids, I'd be trying to get them out of the USA.

        The type of empire collapse in progress is an old story.

        When big chunks of empire start falling, best to be somewhere else when they land.

        Peak Oil is NOW! Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

        by alizard on Wed Apr 20, 2011 at 05:02:00 AM PDT

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