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  •  PA has "state stores" for liquor. Started to help (2+ / 0-)
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    pay for the Johnstown flood. Still going strong after all these years.

    For decades the stores consisted of a only a counter. All the alcohol was in the back site unseen. You told the clerk what you wanted from their very limited selection. People from Philly would go to NJ to buy there poison of choice which was cheaper and there was a much larger selection especially wine.

    PA was losing money. So several years ago they redesigned the stores to be more customer friendly with the bottles on shelves you get yourself. Selection is also better. Many still go to NJ for better prices.

    I think they're now considering privatizing the stores. From my experience, private stores of this kind are better able to serve their particular cliental.

    I'm not a "Privatier", but in this case it may not be a bad idea.

    Progressives will win when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

    by auapplemac on Tue Apr 19, 2011 at 09:06:29 PM PDT

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    •  From A to B (2+ / 0-)
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      Point A: State stores, as they're called in Pa, helped to pay for the recovery needed from the devastating Johnstown flood.

      Point B: Your conclusion. Never mind the disaster relief. We get better booze, and cheaper, if it's privatized, so let's go with that.

      Trivia of the day: In WV state stores used to commonly be called ABC stores. Nothing to do with schools, just the Alcoholic Beverage Commission.

      •  Um, the flood was in 1889. Did it take well over (1+ / 0-)
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        a century to pay for the the rebuilding of Johnstown after the flood? The state just found a convenient way to continue to make money after reconstruction was paid for.

        Progressives will win when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

        by auapplemac on Wed Apr 20, 2011 at 12:55:00 AM PDT

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        •  Without overstating the obvious, uh, no (1+ / 0-)
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          But as you pointed out, the state continued to use that funding after the recovery.  I thought progressives liked to have funds in the coffers, as we realize that those funds help get us sidewalks, libraries, street lights, and maybe! eventually even a flood warning system.

          Not saying I don't like booze, just saying that for sidewalks and libraries I'll pay the extra. After all, good Irish whiskey (which I wish I could still afford) has been called the water of life. OTOH, ooh that literacy, and all those poets and writers. Imma stick with the letting the state keep the funds. Once the libraries have either no funding or are somehow privatized, they'll need it.

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