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  •  totally agree (7+ / 0-)

    I have the degree, and have worked with many 'clerks' that have the same level of professionalism as my MLS colleagues. The job is different, but the commitment to free access is just as important -- maybe more so, as the clerks are usually the ones that register people for cards and check out the books, so they see practically everyone that comes through the door.

    I support unions because I support the middle class.

    by musicsleuth on Wed Apr 20, 2011 at 08:37:52 AM PDT

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    •  the librarians might come up with (4+ / 0-)

      policies and procedures but if we can't get our staff to understand why they need to be enforced it is of no use to us.

      •  It's about respect. A lesson I learned (2+ / 0-)
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        from my dad, but not directly, rather from his example.
        Dad's a retired physician. In Australia's mixed public and private hospital system, he retained a part-time position at his local public hospital throughout his career, alongside his private work.
        After he retired from the local public hospital, a non-medical staff member told me they always enjoyed working with my dad, and they explained that by noting that he was the only doctor on first name terms with the janitors.
        Respect is a two-way street.
        Sometimes work relationships require that authority is recognized, but respect is separate and always will be a two-way street.

        •  Problem is, I respected her ability to do (1+ / 0-)
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          her job. SHe thought she was my boss.\
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          FYI, I've worked as a research assistant and as a secretary. You take the jobs that are available. Thsi woman was NOT a professional nor could she begin to do my job.  Nor did she respect me at all--because she didn't respect anyone but herself.

          The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

          by irishwitch on Wed Apr 20, 2011 at 01:12:33 PM PDT

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          •  I don't doubt that she was truly awful (0+ / 0-)

            but for all that, don't let yourself down by using argumentum ad hominems that denigrate a person's position. (Like you, I've worked in professional and non-professional roles.)
            I just re-read your original comment. Like I said earlier, I agree wholeheartedly with your views that libraries must be bastions of intellectual freedom and religiously neutral. It was only the word "simply" that struck an off-note for me. Now if you said she was a "bossy bitch" I would accept that as your honest opinion based on your interactions with her, but please don't say "was simply a clerk".
            Anyhow, Irishwitch, it must be late in your part of the world by now. Sleep well and have a great Thursday, if Thursdays can be great.

    •  Some do, some don't. (1+ / 0-)
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      I;ve known clerks who could do reference work--and I worked in two very large systems--but most don't have the training or the ability to do so. Just seeing people who come through the door may help set the tone--but that tone isn't always positive.

      When I worked in Jacksonville, the clerks  tended to be fundy Christians with a very narrow set of acceptable ideas.  One young man came in  and I recognized him immediately as a fellow Goth-- he was punk with a safety pin through one ear, decked in black with eyeliner.  He approached the clerical desk first. I watched his body language change from neutral to bristling with anger, and I watched the clerk whose behavior I described above giving him the patronizing "I am going to heaven and you're not" smile. By the time he got to me, he was glowering.

      I looked at him, smiled, and asked if I could help.  He was angry and had a couple of comments to make.  I talked him down, asked him what music he was into, and how could I help? In two minutes, he was explainign that he was stuck visiting family that summer, wa bored stiff, was tired of getting treated like a third clas citizen, and wanted to learn Japanese so he could eventually study aniamtion and get a job in anime.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Wed Apr 20, 2011 at 01:10:44 PM PDT

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