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  •  Last I checked (3+ / 0-)

    (current, a grandson is in a charter he's been attending since kindergarten), charter schools ARE public schools.

    Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

    by Joieau on Thu Apr 21, 2011 at 10:09:55 AM PDT

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    •  Joieau (0+ / 0-)

      You have never spent much time in either place recently!  

      •  Now, what in the world (4+ / 0-)

        would make you say that? Granddaughter who attended the same charter since 2nd grade graduates high school (regular public, that's all there are here) this year. Already accepted to Duke with scholarship, medical research.

        Charters ARE public in my state. Maybe they aren't in yours, but that's no skin off my family's teeth. They serve a necessary purpose and do very well compared to the regular public schools, better in some measures. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The charter is smaller, can only take so many students per year. Do you also have a problem with smaller public schools as opposed to those with student bodies in the multi-thousands? Would you bus kids 4 hours a day to make sure the small schools are as crowded as the big ones? Would you pay for the bonds to build the bigger schools instead of maintaining the big schools you've already got?

        What would you be prepared to do to make sure every child gets exactly the same level of educational experience?

        Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

        by Joieau on Thu Apr 21, 2011 at 12:27:18 PM PDT

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    •  They are and they have to accept everyone who (3+ / 0-)

      wants in as long as space allows. I don't know where this myth that there are no special education students in charter schools came from. In my town we have had charter schools for almost 15 years. Most of them started out with a high population of special needs students who were not being educated well in the public schools. I know many parents who feel that charter schools saved their special needs child. I realize this isn't exactly a scientific study, but not all charter schools are a good fit for a special needs child and parents aren't going to keep going to a school that isn't helping their child.

      "Pretty soon we're not going to be able to find reasonable decent people who are willing to subject themselves to serving public office." Sheriff Dupnik, AZ

      by voracious on Thu Apr 21, 2011 at 02:22:12 PM PDT

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      •  Apparently Bmeis (0+ / 0-)

        is laboring under the misapprehension that his own experience trumps everyone's experience, anywhere. His charters aren't public, so ours can't be. His charters are exclusive private schools, so ours must be. And if vouchers are ever educational policy, people will be allowed to send their kids to exclusive private charters and public education will die.

        I've begun to think maybe he doesn't know all that much about the subject as it applies nationally.

        Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

        by Joieau on Thu Apr 21, 2011 at 02:50:24 PM PDT

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      •  The myth persists because... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...there are states where Charters can cherry-pick kids.

        Anti-Charter groups point out these programs in an attempt to smear the good Charter programs, where no cherry-picking is allowed.

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