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  •  Older lesbians... (13+ / 0-)

    ...grew of age in a time when their heroes (eg. Mary Daly), suffered from misinformation about us.  Some of them have gotten over it.  A few of them even ended up transitioning.

    Another link.

    •  it is sad that some (4+ / 0-)
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      gay men exhibit similar discomfort as a kind of presumed heterophobia when having to engage transfolk

      Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above "Nous sommes un groupuscule" join the DAILY KOS UNIVERSITY "makes Beck U. and the Limbaugh Institute look like Romper Room"

      by annieli on Fri Apr 22, 2011 at 06:32:01 PM PDT

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      •  I believe (6+ / 0-)

        that some of that discomfort relates to the fact that some gay men fear that they did not have the courage to examine their gender issues as well as their sexual issues.  This was true for me at one point.  I was uncomfortable with "drag" when I was younger because I wanted to be accepted as a passable straight man.  HA!  There is deceiving and then there is deceiving.

        I had the great privilege of hosting Jan Morris for an author series and have the program on tape.  If anyone still has a VHS player and wants to borrow it, just message me.

        Another superb diary, rserven.

        Just waitin' around for the new Amy Winehouse album

        by jarbyus on Fri Apr 22, 2011 at 08:17:30 PM PDT

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        •  Maybe not presumed heterophobia (2+ / 0-)
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          It can be a case of confusing gender and sexuality and not understanding the difference, and fearing the confusion.  18 years ago, after living in San Francisco for 8 years and growing accustomed to most people having a relatively broad acceptance of the gender spectrum as distinct from sexual orientation, I moved to LA.  I was astounded to be confronted by a barrage of gay men who demanded "straight acting" sex partners.  So fucked up. Sexual orientation and gender identification are not the same thing.  

          "A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future." - Leonard Bernstein

          by outragedinSF on Fri Apr 22, 2011 at 11:21:50 PM PDT

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          •  Sorry...totally agreeing with you jarbyus (1+ / 0-)
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            didn't mean to reference the preceding comment and heterophobia in the subject.  Must be tired tonight...

            "A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future." - Leonard Bernstein

            by outragedinSF on Fri Apr 22, 2011 at 11:23:33 PM PDT

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    •  It was about Mary Daly. (6+ / 0-)

      And I spoke up briefly, but not as much as I would have if it hadn't been a celebratory dinner.  I didn't want to get into a huge argument there.

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