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  •  Jesus went to his death for that, and also, (5+ / 0-)

    because he was fulfilling prophesies. My favorite line from all of the Passion narratives: "What is truth?"--Pontius Pilate.

    Jesus did other things, at least in the stories. He went to a wedding where the hosts were rude enough not to put up enough wine. Jesus fixed it. There is nothing worse than inviting people to your party and not having enough wine.

    Jesus' friend Lazarus was sick. Jesus was too busy to visit him until it was too late. Lazarus had died. "Jesus Wept", the shortest "Jesus" quote in the Bible refers to the fact that he wept over the death of his friend, and his own foolishness of not having come earlier. Jesus responded by bringing his friend out of the tomb. At least in the story, that's how it goes

    Jesus seemed to be a pretty stand up guy. No pun intended. Oh, and he pardoned thieves, spoke to strange women, healed the sick (free of charge) and even liked trolls. Well, that short guy in a tree, anyway.

    Craft is what emerges when you hit inspiration over the head with a stick.

    by commonmass on Fri Apr 22, 2011 at 03:44:21 PM PDT

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    •  Yes and Yes! "One majorly cool dude" (3+ / 0-)
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      When I was a kid we used to say "If Jesus was around today people would think he was a hippie," and today he'd be called a communist.  

      I'm something of a rationalist (with a mystical streak), but the way I understand many of those stories is that he was able to get people to truly rise above themselves in many ways.  

      For example the story of fishes & loaves is conventionally interpreted as miraculous in the sense of materialization.  But a rationalist interpretation is that he was able to inspire people to share what food they were hoarding, thereby creating plenty where there had been scarcity.  

      The deeper miracle is the transformation of the human mind and heart.  And this is a struggle that is still with us.  For most of the problems we face, we have the means at our fingertips to solve them; all we need to do is decide to act.  And for many of those instances, the decision to act requires a change of heart or a change of mind.  Getting hearts and minds to change is still as difficult today as it was in Biblical times.  

      •  I'm an atheist who believes that the Bible (1+ / 0-)
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        is a thoroughly human document that gives marvelous glimpes of what divinity truly is, and that is, as you so rightly said, to rise above our human instinct.  

        Ds see human suffering and wonder what they can do to relieve it. Rs see human suffering and wonder how they can profit from it.

        by JTinDC on Fri Apr 22, 2011 at 10:33:59 PM PDT

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    •  or it was his wedding (0+ / 0-)

      which would be why he was in charge of snacks...

      And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

      by Mortifyd on Fri Apr 22, 2011 at 08:19:38 PM PDT

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