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    •  Bill, Please! I just ate... (4+ / 0-)

      You tell me this American cousin of Mrs. Malaprop, this Bachmann is influentual the world over....?!

      What did she do now, become a spokesperson for Ex-Lax or something like it?  Maybe Citrate of Magnesia?

      That's about the biggest stink that political sideshow will put out.

      Today, 4/23/11, 7184 US and allied soldiers, and untold Iraqis and Afghans are dead. Pres. Obama, you inherited Bush's lies, now stop the madness.

      by boilerman10 on Sat Apr 23, 2011 at 02:58:52 PM PDT

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      •  With todays whack-a-doodle Republican party (4+ / 0-)

        I could see Bachmann winning Iowa and South Carolina in the primary.

        I know that sounds crazy buy I'm being 100% serious here.

        "He's the one, who likes all our pretty songs. And he likes to sing along. And he likes to shoot his gun. But he knows not what it means" - Kurt Cobain

        by Jeff Y on Sat Apr 23, 2011 at 04:42:58 PM PDT

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        •  I don't know... I'm told that we'll (5+ / 0-)
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          get a fairly conclusive view on her chances of getting a spot on a White House ticket by August.

          The Iowa caucus represents MB's best shot at getting traction. She's already been to South Carolina, trying to pick up support there.

          If Huckabee is on the ticket, they don't really need Bachmann to flesh it out with evangelical conservatives. Ditto Pawlenty: my understanding is that law prevents two Minnesotan candidates on a WH ticket, and it's a dumb idea anyway...because Pawlenty has been plugged in to the national evangelical right for a decade; it's overlap of the same votes, as with Huckabee.

          Right now I'm thinking Romney/Bachmann as a possibility, because Bachmann helps Romney address his Mormon problem (which is actually a serious issue with evangelical voters.)

          But who knows, it's early enough to speculate but not to prophesy. I'm sure of this: the evangelical right did not build national bridges for Michele Bachmann so that she can remain a lowly congresswoman from a relatively unimportant district in MN.

          •  Getting air time is not (2+ / 0-)
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            bridge building beyond the like minded.

            With her off beat and at times asinine weltanshauung, she risks being the greatest liability to a Republican political ticket since Sarah Palin, except Bachmann is more wide-eyed and milder spoken.

            You need to sell it to the masses.  I don't think the masses are ready for her now or well into the foreseeable future unless she does a complete makeover from the ground up.

            Today, 4/23/11, 7184 US and allied soldiers, and untold Iraqis and Afghans are dead. Pres. Obama, you inherited Bush's lies, now stop the madness.

            by boilerman10 on Sat Apr 23, 2011 at 08:15:01 PM PDT

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            •  It's true that "getting air time is (2+ / 0-)
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              not bridge building beyond the like minded." But that's not all I'm talking about, when I'm talking about bridges.

              If it was just air time, this whole deal would be less of a concern. It's not just the air time (on Fox and cable as well as the evangelical radio stations across the nation.) The bridges include the political clout that the evang conservatives can bring to promote (or kill) Bachmann's career.

              You gotta understand: it's not just media these guys control, it's get out the vote drives, the cooperation of some big churches, the state directors of evangelical conservative activism PLUS the evangelical media. It may not mean that much to you (one of the many "un-like minded")--but it scares the Republican Party leadership shitless.

              The guys who build Bachmann can effectively veto GOP presidential candidacies. Ask Rudy Giuliani. They can doom GOP tickets, if their power is not acknowledged (eg, the reason why McCain put the laughable Sarah Palin on the ticket.) And it's not just the presidential levers they can pull to eff up the GOP, they can punish via pulling out of congressional and state races, if they don't like the GOP's decision: and that can determine the course of a race.

              No, it's not just the free media to the like minded: they have invested a lot in Bachmann via the threat they pose to the "secular" Republicans and their careers...her rise out of Minnesota state government and into Congress was in part due to fear on the part of the GOP--the fear that if they gave a nomination for a safe GOP seat in Congress to anyone else, the state chapters of Focus on the Family and all those evang conserv activists would bust GOP careers, on the radio and at the polls and in some churches.

              This is a national political network that backs Bachmann, not just that network's media. They can punish/wound the GOP, nationally and locally where the evang conserv vote is strong. Bachmann can reach a veep spot on a White House ticket, if the evang conservative leadership tells the GOP "it's Bachmann or we pull out and wait through another four years of Obama." They have the wherewithal to do that, to the GOP, and the GOP knows it.

              If you don't believe me, Google some traditional news media articles with the following search terms: "Council For National Policy" and (John McCain, or Mitt Romney, or Fred Thompson, or Rudoph Giuliani, or George W. Bush, or Dick Cheney)...those guys weren't down there trying to kiss the evangelical right's ass because the evangelical right can't make GOP presidential candidacies.

            •  boilerman10: from your keyboard... (1+ / 0-)
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              I don't think the masses are ready for her now or well into the foreseeable future unless she does a complete makeover from the ground up.

              ... to FSM's monitor.

              I agree with you, and see no reason why a total nut job like Bachmann is even elected to a state office, let alone a national office.  She belongs in a state mental hospital, IMHO.  I don't know who is more of a Looney Tune:  Batty Bachmann, She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named from the frozen tundra, or O'Dumbell....

              OTOH, in my journals from Oct 2000 for the prez "debates," I said if Dumbya were elected he'd invade Iraq to finish his daddy's war, that we'd go into a recession, and that I didn't understand how the national political and "news" pundits could construe that unintelligent gibberish as "winning" the debates.  I also said I didn't see how anyone could vote for a man who was so patently stupid.  [When I'm wrong, it's a doozy.]

              Election day came and went, my mouth was still agape as the FL recount was stopped and SCOTUS appointed the world's most incredibly stupid man as "president."

              Eleven years later, I'm still amazed at how much he was able to accomplish on lies and hyperbole.

              All of that was with the able assistance of Moronic Media streaming hyperbolic rhetoric and lies, lies, and more lies into our homes 24/7, right along with forced patriotism (stamps, shirts, maudlin military ceremonies that STILL say our military personnel are "fighting for our freedoms" which couldn't be further from the truth).

              Minnesota Media almost never shows Batty Bachmann's more outrageous rants and raves.  I only see that via DK or YouTube.  In-state Moronic Media (esp., KSTP which is owned by Hubbard Broadcasting which is a primary Repuke supporter) severely edits Batty Bachmann's sound bytes down to a few seconds of her least inflammatory rhetoric.

              With the "right PR," that crazy monster could get "elected" the same way Dumbya was "elected."

              Like the US of A needs any more negative international attention...?!?

              I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

              by NonnyO on Sun Apr 24, 2011 at 08:39:05 AM PDT

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