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  •  For the time (13+ / 0-)

    Five ten would have been an above average height.

    I recall reading that the average height of soldiers in the British army during the Peninsular wars was either 5'4" or 5'8" and I lean to the former. And in another source, a woman known as "Long Meg" was 5'3".

    •  I had thought (13+ / 0-)

      of this too.  Thomas would have been considered above average height, certainly. (Abe Lincoln was about 6'4".)

      And, Abraham Enloe was 6'4".

      Interesting thing about the height:  the "Enloeists" (some of them anyway), in their discussions about Thomas Lincoln tend to have him shrinking with each discussion point.  One Enloe descendant even has Tom Lincoln at only 5'5'!!

      •  People get their height from mother's DNA (2+ / 0-)
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        at least, that is what I have always heard. My Iowa Dad used to say, "You want to raise basketball players, you gotta marry a tall woman!"

        It's all very silly.

        ~On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin! Raise her glowing flame!~

        by sillia on Wed Apr 27, 2011 at 08:19:47 PM PDT

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        •  Interesting! (0+ / 0-)

          My father was only 5'4", my mum, 5'2". I was the cuckoo in the nest who ended up at 5'8".

          One of my brothers had a father who was 6'5" so we all expected him to be tall but he is about my height.

          You know that old test that says the height you are at 2 (IIRC) is half what you will be at adulthood. My daughter was about right (5'6" predicted and she's about 5'5") but my sons were predicted to be about 5'4" and 5'2". I worried about it for years, though what good that would do i don't know. Thankfullly they have both ended up above average in height at almost 6 foot.

          •  A friend of our family (0+ / 0-)

            when I was growing up, the father of one of my classmates, was I'd guess at least 6'4" (he was quite a bit taller than my dad). They told us that he had always been the shortest kid in his class, all the way up until his senior year in college! Then he suddenly shot up. I always thought that was a strange story, but people do get growth spurts in early adulthood.

            ~On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin! Raise her glowing flame!~

            by sillia on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 06:56:53 PM PDT

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            •  What happens (0+ / 0-)

              Children's long bones keep growing year over year. Then they reach puberty and have their growth spurt and then stop growing.
              Children who reach puberty early can tend to be shorter because they haven't had the benefit of extra years of childhood growth.

              That's how you get those "shrimps" you knew in high school who surprise you years later with having grown into tall, possibly dark and handsome hunks!

    •  During the US Civil War (10+ / 0-)

      IIRC, average height of Union recruits was something like 5'8". Average age was something like 20 years, so they weren't recruiting boys, either.

      That trend seemed to be normal for much of the 19th and early 20th centuries. If you look at pre-modern to 1950s era shoes and clothing, they're usually much smaller than modern sizes, even discounting the modern obesity epidemic.

      Had he been born to a middle or upper class family in the  late 20th century and gotten good nutrition, clean water and vaccinations to prevent childhood diseases, Tom Lincoln might well have stood at 6'0' or higher.

      Obama: At least he gives a good speech.

      by Permanent Republican Minority on Wed Apr 27, 2011 at 10:19:27 AM PDT

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    •  From wikipedia (3+ / 0-)
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      Sorry it's not formatted but you can that for all men 5'10" is even now above average height.

      Country/Region↓     Average male height↓     Average female height↓     Sample population /age range↓     Methodology↓     Year↓     Source
      U.S.     1.763 m (5 ft 9 1⁄2 in)     1.622 m (5 ft 4 in)     All Americans, 20+     Measured     2003–2006     [71]

      U.S.     1.776 m (5 ft 10 in)     1.632 m (5 ft 4 1⁄2 in)     All Americans, 20–29     Measured     2003–2006     [71]

      U.S.     1.789 m (5 ft 10 1⁄2 in)     1.648 m (5 ft 5 in)     White Americans, 20–39     Measured     2003–2006     [71]

      U.S.     1.780 m (5 ft 10 in)     1.632 m (5 ft 4 1⁄2 in)     Black Americans, 20–39     Measured     2003–2006     [71]

      U.S.     1.706 m (5 ft 7 in)     1.587 m (5 ft 2 1⁄2 in)     Mexican-Americans, 20–39     Measured     2003–2006     [71]

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