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  •  thank you folks (6+ / 0-)

    for putting this on the Recommended List

    Much obliged.


    Got Time?
    Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

    by jamess on Sun Apr 24, 2011 at 06:39:53 AM PDT

    •  who owns these ideas, patents, breakthroughs? (5+ / 0-)

      if it's Los Alamos will the taxpayers get the profits, DOE, the scientists...who?

      Or will it be privatized for political back scratching and a good job in private industry?

      "Responsible people leave neither loaded guns nor paranoid, eliminationist ideologies laying around for the mentally ill to play with".....Driftglass

      by KenBee on Sun Apr 24, 2011 at 06:50:22 AM PDT

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      •  I don't know, for sure (3+ / 0-)
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        KenBee, Otteray Scribe, Outrider

        I haven't done that Patent Search / research yet.

        the Los Alamos article says:

        Because of the successful performance of the new catalyst, the Los Alamos researchers have filed a patent for it.

        http://www.lanl.gov/...


        From my own work with the Govt,

        I'm pretty sure anything created on Govt Time,
        belongs to the Govt.


        Got Time?
        Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

        by jamess on Sun Apr 24, 2011 at 06:57:17 AM PDT

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        •  not really. Gov money very often comes with the (4+ / 0-)

          incentive to use the intellectual property developed by researchers to file patents and stimulate new industries - or at least new start-ups, some of which lead to new industries.

          I know several scientists whose government-funded research led to patents and start-ups, some of which actually made money. This is true for a number of Nobel winners in Physiology or Medicine who have been able to start companies using patents on their Nobel-winning discoveries.

          It's actually most often quite the opposite of private biz, where the company does own you and your ideas, lock, stock, and barrel.

          Fear is the mind-killer - Frank Herbert, Dune

          by p gorden lippy on Sun Apr 24, 2011 at 07:09:43 AM PDT

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          •  Yup - Technology transfer (3+ / 0-)

            There is a ridiculous notion in this country that the private sector must own all technology and make all the money on it. In the reigning paradigm, government's only purpose is to siphon money from ordinary people's pockets into the pockets of the corporations; any other use of our money (say, to educate or feed our children, keep ourselves and our parents healthy, etc.) is de-facto a poor allocation of those funds, and must be lobbied against with great diligence.

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