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  •  He didn't accept half a loaf. He accepted (6+ / 0-)

    celery.

    What we got is a codification of private, for profit health insurance with a state mandated public subsidy.

    It was not half a loaf. It was an entirely different food group.

    Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

    by k9disc on Mon Apr 25, 2011 at 04:20:44 AM PDT

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    •  Don't agree, but would you have been willing (0+ / 0-)

      to accept gaining nothing ay all?

      An optimist may see a light where there is none, but why must the pessimist always run to blow it out? Rene Descartes

      by Had Enough Right Wing BS on Mon Apr 25, 2011 at 04:24:06 AM PDT

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      •  Was there an actual net gain? (4+ / 0-)
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        k9disc, musing85, denise b, Cali Techie

        30 million Americans will be forced to buy junk insurance or pay a penalty.  There were no end to the anti-trust exemptions, no end of tort immunity, no drug reimportation, no end to double digit rate increases.

        For every step forward that was taken with that health care insurance reform bill, there was one step taken back.

        The insurance industry was being crushed by it's own weight.  Now it's going to be sustained through 30 million new customers and subsidies paid for by taxpayers.  People will still be running out of money, still be losing their homes because they pay for medical costs instead of mortgages, and still end up on Medicaid where the taxpayer gets hooked in the end anyway.

        "Pragmatists don't DO things! They explain to you how things CANNOT be done." - AndyS In Colorado

        by Uberbah on Mon Apr 25, 2011 at 10:36:44 AM PDT

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      •  I agree with Uberbah. (1+ / 0-)
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        I think it was a tremendous set back to any kind of Human Agenda.

        We are throwing sick people into a captive market. A captive market for life saving services are not good for making people healthy.

        Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

        by k9disc on Mon Apr 25, 2011 at 01:06:15 PM PDT

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