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  •  my husband is a county (6+ / 0-)

    employee and he HAS taken pay cuts. also, i don't think his pension is what screwed up the budget. CA relies on income tax primarily which has totally taken a dive thanks to the shenanigans on wall street.

    I saw a really great analogy on Kos at one point: A guy in a 3 piece suit comes up to you, beats you up and takes all your money. He then points to my husband, the county librarian. "Look at him!! God damn public employee! He still has 8 bucks in his pocket! I'll bet his kids are going to be able to eat dinner tonight but not yours! You should go take his money!"

    There is PLENTY of money in this country to allow all of us to live a decent life and retire with some dignity. We have allowed the super rich to take that away by getting divided and fighting for the crumbs.

    "There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things in life."

    by ca union goon on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 06:00:34 PM PDT

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    •  I can only comment on what I've seen (1+ / 0-)
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      where I live (San Francisco).

      Union employees are making way more than they should for the skill level that the jobs require.

      I appreciate the jobs that police, firemen and Muni drivers do for the city where I live, but I can still think that they are being overpaid and their guaranteed pensions are way out of line with what we can afford.

    •  No one cares (1+ / 0-)
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      County employees salaries are paid out of the private sector salaries of those who live in the county. If incomes drop in the county (for whatever reason), it's only fair for county employee salaries/benefits to fall as well.

      Blame Wall Street all you want, but local taxpayers have as much power to fix Wall Street as you do: none.

      All public sector salaries rely on private sector salaries for their lifeblood. A private decline must and will presage a public decline.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 06:08:26 PM PDT

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      •  yes I agree (2+ / 0-)
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        it is a race to the bottom. However, I do think that there is an argument to be made that public spending is an extremely effective form of stimulus -- look at what FDR did after the Depression.

        "There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things in life."

        by ca union goon on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 06:27:05 PM PDT

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      •  Oh and Sparhawk (2+ / 0-)
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        Glen The Plumber, blindyone

        I don't agree that we have no power to fix Wall Street. Call me a stary eyed progressive democrat if you want but I think average Americans are starting to realize that we (the middle class) in this country have been systematically SCREWED since Reagan. Clinton fucked us over too and never mind the Bush years. The top 1 percent in this country have robbed the rest of us and turning on each other (public "union" workers versus private sector) doesn't help.

        over and out....I gotta go feed my kids dinner

        "There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things in life."

        by ca union goon on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 06:36:28 PM PDT

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        •  You may well be correct (0+ / 0-)

          ...but an individual town isn't going to solve its financial problems by attacking or suing Wall Street. That may or may not be a great national solution, but if you're the mayor of Nowhere, IL, what's the solution that's available?

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 06:39:59 PM PDT

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