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  •  The reaction (11+ / 0-)

    of Elliot Abrams, the guy the US put in charge of training PA security forces and fomenting a coup against Hamas, is telling.

    •  Yup (13+ / 0-)

      Good article.  The US and Israel will do there utmost to quash this move, of course.  The US will limit/cutoff aid to the PA and try to starve them out.  We'll see if Abbas has the strength or the cleverness to resist them, or if this is jsut a negotiating ploy that he'll quickly abandon.  It'll also be interesting to see how the Arab monarchies react.  Publicly, they must be all for this unity.  Privately, they have always been against it, but now bringing Hamas into the PA government might be seen as a better alternative than risking another revolution in another Arab entity.  

      "How did you go bankrupt?" "Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly." - Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises.

      by weasel on Wed Apr 27, 2011 at 12:28:18 PM PDT

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    •  Which is what most of the Very Serious Pundits (9+ / 0-)

      will be saying, and is how the story will soon be framed in most of the US media.

      Glenn Greenwald and others will push back. But I think it will take significant and unexpected progress from this union to make more Americans reconsider their basic "Hamas must die" stance.

      And there will be a lot of people looking desperately for any mis-step, so that they can make that the story.

      But perhaps now (with bigger changes occurring than have in some time) is precisely when we should step beyond our cynical expectation of disappointment, and look towards a brighter and definitely possible future.

      "Problems can't be solved by the same level of thinking that created them" Einstein

      by Brecht on Wed Apr 27, 2011 at 01:00:53 PM PDT

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      •  Right, even though (6+ / 0-)

        virtually every remotely serious analyst of the conflict recognises that some basic level of internal Palestinian political co-operation is a prerequisite for any serious attempt at peace (the International Crisis Group for example has been saying this for years). The US and Israel know this perfectly well of course, which is why they've been so careful to destroy and block Palestinian unity.

        The US is opposed to Palestinian unity, but it I'm not sure whether or not the events in the region that weasel describes will to some extent tie the government's hands, at least for a while.

        What I don't know enough about are the internal dynamics within Fatah and Hamas and how the reconciliation reflects & effects them.

        •  Indeed. Your third paragraph is where curiosity (4+ / 0-)

          is looking now. We will see and hear more of that, at least for the next few weeks, as the mediasphere weighs in and events unfold on the ground.

          "I'm not sure whether or not the events in the region that weasel describes will to some extent tie the government's hands, at least for a while." I think and hope so.

          The real wild card is how those who have ignored politics, or cared deeply but finally given up, are being inflamed by new possibilities of participation and democracy, all across the Middle East. Kind of like Barack did to our electorate in 2008, but with a whole lot more gunpowder.

          New dynamics are coming into play, and many of the old playbooks of complicity/deception/oppression are already ashes in the wind

          "Problems can't be solved by the same level of thinking that created them" Einstein

          by Brecht on Wed Apr 27, 2011 at 01:50:36 PM PDT

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    •  Eliot Abrams, Felon? (2+ / 0-)
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      really?  

      Those who hear not the music-think the dancers mad

      by Eiron on Wed Apr 27, 2011 at 04:06:43 PM PDT

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