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  •  Unfortunately, there are lots of precedents (1+ / 0-)
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    many far worse.

    Consider:

    Sudan/South Sudan
    Sudan/Darfur
    Nigeria/Biafra
    South Africa/Namibia
    Morocco/Western Sahara
    Iraq/Kurdistan
    Iran/Kurdistan
    Turkey/Kurdistan
    Soviet Union/Multiple
    Serbia/Kosovo

    And those are only the ones off the top of my head.

    •  In all of these (4+ / 0-)

      the separatist regions were recognized as part of the state they which to separate from. People in those regions were considered citizens of that state.

      Palestine is not a separatist region and Israel does not consider the Palestinians citizens. It is occupied and come what may Palestine will be recognized.

      •  two points (0+ / 0-)

        1.  That was not true in all cases with respect to the Soviet Union, which occupied recognized independent states.  I am also not sure that was true in the case of Namibia. I also failed to include the Syrian occupation of Lebanon, which was also a recognized state.  

        2.  I am not entirely sure, that one can legitimately view external recognition as significant in determining whether people have a right to be free.   I would suggest that far more relevant is whether their rights are protected, they form an identifiable group connected with a geographic territory and they have the opportunity to participate on a substantially equal basis with citizens of other groups

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