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  •  Well, there's the (5+ / 0-)

    militarization of the CIA -- many Democrats warned about this when W appointed Gen. Hayden.

    And there's also Petreus's fondness for drone attacks, which have killed hundreds of civilians and helped to create thousands of America-haters. It's, um, odd that Gen. Petreus recognizes the immorality and strategic stupidity of torturing Muslims but seems oblivious to the immorality and strategic stupidity of killing innocent Muslims, including children.

    •  As for killing innocent muslims and children, (3+ / 0-)
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      I think aq and taliban take a vastly greater share of credit than petreaus. While the first is wanton and mindless, the latter is not so intentional.

      And no, I don't support Afghan war.

      One bitter fact is two bit hacks populate the third rate fourth estate who are truly the fifth columnists.
      A No-Drama Obama Site & Some Straight Talkin'

      by amk for obama on Fri Apr 29, 2011 at 07:15:37 AM PDT

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    •  If Obama does it, it must be good? (6+ / 0-)

      But wait, Biden questioned Hayden's appointment--

      A more militarized CIA for a more militarized America

    •  there has been a ratcheting of tensions with (0+ / 0-)

      pakistan of late.

      Political and public outrage has mounted inside Pakistan in response to CIA-led missile strikes using unmanned drones, which reportedly have killed civilians, and in response to an incident in January when CIA contractor Raymond Davis shot and killed two Pakistanis in Lahore. The tensions have sparked a series of high-level meetings between U.S. and Pakistani senior officials.

      On April 20, Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, flew into Islamabad, where he bluntly criticized Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency for having ties to the Haqqani network, which sends militants into Afghanistan to attack U.S. and NATO forces. And the CIA has not backed down from carrying out drone operations in Pakistan, launching an attack April 22 that reportedly killed militants but also women and children.

      ...

      wont the promotion of petraeus be read with hostility by pakistan?

      "sometimes decades pass and nothing happens; and then sometimes weeks pass and decades happen."...

      by stolen water on Fri Apr 29, 2011 at 07:56:20 AM PDT

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    •  it mattered when Shrub wanted it (0+ / 0-)
      The Hayden nomination triggered this comment from the current Democratic Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Dianne Feinstein: "You can't have the military control most of the major aspects of intelligence. The CIA is a civilian agency and is meant to be a civilian agency." The then-top Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, Jane Harman, said "she hears concerns from civilian CIA professionals about whether the Defense Department is taking over intelligence operations" and "shares those concerns." On Meet the Press, Nancy Pelosi cited tensions between the DoD and the CIA and said: "I don't see how you have a four-star general heading up the CIA." Then-Sen. Joe Biden worried that the CIA, with a General in charge, will "just be gobbled up by the Defense Department." Even the current GOP Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Pete Hoekstra, voiced the same concern about Hayden: "We should not have a military person leading a civilian agency at this time."

      http://www.salon.com/...

      without the ants the rainforest dies

      by aliasalias on Fri Apr 29, 2011 at 11:23:59 AM PDT

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