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  •  Bicycles are vehicles (3+ / 0-)
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    Meteor Blades, kyril, skohayes

    and their riders have pushed hard for equality on the road.  And they have earned the rights and responsibilities thereof.

    At the same time, they choose to ignore traffic laws, ride on sidewalks and through crosswalks, block intersections and display a huge sense of entitlement.  And, stupidly, they overplay their vulnerability against cars.

    I obey all traffic laws but refuse to give into the intimidation of law-breaking bikers.  Run a stop sign in my path and you're left hoping that I'm agile enough for a panic stop.

    Bicyclists want their place in a compact city like San Francisco but they need to live by the rules, just like everyone else.

    I used to be Snow White...but I drifted.

    by john07801 on Sat Apr 30, 2011 at 09:21:51 PM PDT

    •  It sounds to me like you equate cars and bikes (0+ / 0-)

      with your statement "equality on the road."  I can't agree with that.  From what I can tell, a car is several thousand pounds, and the driver is encased in steel.  My bike is 18 pounds of carbon fiber.  They are obviously quite different.

      •  Your obstinacy of logic (1+ / 0-)
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        kyril

        is clearly reflective of you obstinacy of law.

        If the next entitled biker who runs a stop sign mistakenly assumes he can coerce me into stopping by putting his own life in danger, I won't feel bad if I don't meet his expectations.  

        Perhaps I'll sue his estate for the car wash necessary to get his guts off my bumper.

        Vaya con Dios!

        I used to be Snow White...but I drifted.

        by john07801 on Sat Apr 30, 2011 at 09:56:18 PM PDT

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        •  I don't expect you to feel badly about killing (0+ / 0-)

          also, we've met before in person, and now, thinking back, I can believe you thinking like this.

          •  Perhaps (2+ / 0-)
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            Meteor Blades, kyril

            if you showed a scintilla of responsibility, you might not evoke such a response from me.  

            Insulting me doesn't affect my adherence to the law or my empathy for others.  Do your part or you are subject to the imperfections of all drivers.  

            The only thing you've gotten right tonight is the weight differential between vehicles.  When they differ, cars prevail every time.

            I used to be Snow White...but I drifted.

            by john07801 on Sat Apr 30, 2011 at 10:36:57 PM PDT

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            •  Yes, cars prevail every time (0+ / 0-)

              so drivers must show the appropriate degree of care, which I can see from your prior post that you do not have.  I have seen many drivers like you.  In a sane world, you would not be allowed to drive.  You are dangerous.

              •  Pedestrians don't. (3+ / 0-)
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                One of my students in the fall term was hit by a bicyclist who blew through a stop sign and just figured she wouldn't enter the crossing.  She was in a coma for a week, and is still in physical therapy.

                A bicycle is a vehicle. The rules must apply to bicycles because they are still dangerous.  Just because they don't best a car or a truck does not mean that they should automatically get the right of way.  I bike about two miles each way for work in the morning and in the evening, and I do run into the kind of drivers who annoy you so much.  But that doesn't abrogate my responsibility to obey the law, or permit me to create a new hazard by taking the law into my own hands.  The best advice is the same advice that any car driver should have: be ready for any contingency on the part of other drivers/vehicles/pedestrians.   Assume doors will open, cars will turn, signals won't be given, pediestrians will step off the kerb, et cetera.

                If you are not willing to follow the law, you're as much of a hazard, if not more, than he is.

                •  So now I'm advocating blowing through stop signs? (0+ / 0-)

                  You seem to be creating a straw man argument.

                  No one is advocating running through stop signs and running into pedestrians.  At least not here.

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