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  •  Isn't that what you are doing? (0+ / 0-)

    you dislike what you see, so you seek to censor it?

    George Bush is Living proof of the axiom "Never send a boy to do a man's job" E -2.25 S -4.10

    by nathguy on Wed May 04, 2011 at 11:06:23 AM PDT

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    •  Disagreement is not cencorship. (4+ / 0-)
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      Nor is a decision to not hightlight a comment or diary in a mothership.

      Unless you are saying that you have somehow been prevented from either posting a diary or commenting, what "censorship" have you suffered?

      As I have commented before, while I do not agree with the law (better communications by the govt and TEPCO could achieve the same ends without suppressing speech) the stated reasons behind the law are the same reasons we need to regulate ourselves and subject each other to what amounts to peer review and challenge.

      The new law primarily has been used in order to remove sensationalistic statements that are likely to move people to take action based on the incorrect belief that the government has asked them to do something or that some disastrous event is imminent.

      And when presented by other posters with challenges to clarify or support assertions of fact or statements of dire and imminent danger that appear to be unsupported, a response such as you gave repeatedly of "Tokyo is on the roof" is just not sufficient for many of us when your statements are being taken by other posters as literal statements of imminent danger instead of what you later admitted was hypothetical future danger.  

      Challenging such statements and characterizing such responses as inadequate is not censorship.

      It's an attempt, imperfect as it may be,  to act in a  responsible way when what we are saying may affect people's lives.    

      We'd rather dream the American Dream than fight to live it or to give it to our kids. What a shame. What an awful, awful shame.

      by Into The Woods on Thu May 05, 2011 at 09:26:19 AM PDT

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      •  it's a sardonic joke, (0+ / 0-)

        the whole smash is  a sick joke.

        Nuclear power is a sick joke.

        you can disagree, and frankly I lack the time to argue it all out,

        I sourced my Data, and the apologists came out of the woodwork.

        George Bush is Living proof of the axiom "Never send a boy to do a man's job" E -2.25 S -4.10

        by nathguy on Thu May 05, 2011 at 10:58:19 AM PDT

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      •   to act in a responsible way (0+ / 0-)
        to act in a  responsible way when what we are saying may affect people's lives.    

        Um, So,  

        Maybe Kan is being Responsible from where he sits?

        If 35 million people unass Tokyo, how many would die in the evacuation? How many would die in shelters? How many would lose jobs, starve?  1%, 2%... So call that 700,000.

        Then consider the radiation exposures, say 1% die of cancer and for a decade miscarriages are running at a high rate?
        So 350,000 die of cancer and families lose children at double the infant mortality rate.

        the brith rate is 1.2/woman right now,  17 Million women
        in tokyo, 10% are of child bearing age, so figure 1.7 Million
        expected  pregnancies.  normal mortality rate 2.8/1000 so figure maybe 5000 extra dead children.  

        So maybe Kan thinks he's being responsible here.  

        Tell that to the people he's pushing that risk onto.

        when you say you are being responsible, do you mean that you are making a deliberate judgement to take casualties to avoid casualties?  

        or are you merely handwaving on how there is no risk and that everything in Tokyo is all fine?

        George Bush is Living proof of the axiom "Never send a boy to do a man's job" E -2.25 S -4.10

        by nathguy on Thu May 05, 2011 at 11:08:18 AM PDT

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