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  •  Heheh (7+ / 0-)

    Of course we get this on our first day at DKE. :)

    I'm just teasing. I think the main objection to Kucinich is that he seems to put his personal pet issues ahead of consensus-building and actually working for change - that he's driven by ego rather than a desire to get things done. He's never been a team player and has few friends in the party. He also seems to be something of an opportunist, swapping out his life-long anti-choice record for supposedly pro-choice views just before he sought the presidency in 2004. Convenient!

    Some people admire him for his lonely crusades, but I think a lot of people wish he'd find a way to accomplish real goals rather than (just) grandstand. Maybe it's unjust that we live in a world where ideas like a Department of Peace are greeted with instant scorn, but that's just reality, and Kucinich making that a signature issue of his isn't going to change that reality. If politics is the art of the possible, Kucinich seems interested in the art of the impossible, and that's a turn off to people who want to solve real problems.

    I really hope we can avoid a pro-Kuchinich/anti-Kucinich flame war on our very first day, though! Pretty please? :)

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    by David Nir on Tue May 03, 2011 at 06:56:14 AM PDT

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    •  Count me anti (1+ / 0-)
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      but only since the whole "Libya Impeachment" bullshit. Before that I was generally pro. I think we'll find, though, that the super-pro-Kucinich folks are mostly the same group as the super-anti-Obama folks, so this flame war could be, well, super. He is precisely the kind of "leader" they have been demanding that the President should be. Earnest to a fault, loudly opinionated, and utterly useless at getting anything done, because nothing's ever good enough.

      The President exemplifies a diametrically opposite approach. Pragmatic to a fault, quietly subtle, and happy to get 80% and give up another 20% on top of that, because even 60% is 10% better than 50%, and if you can do that often enough, you hit 110% pretty quickly, it turns out.

      •  Completely agreed (1+ / 0-)
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        I found Rep. Kucinich to be somewhat amusing, albeit frequently over-the-top and generally ineffectual, up until March.

        You don't call for the leader of your party to be impeached for joining a UN mandate to prevent a massacre.

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        by SaoMagnifico on Tue May 03, 2011 at 10:09:33 PM PDT

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