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View Diary: How Torture Elicited 'Key Denials' That Led To Death of bin Laden 9 Years Later (Sarcasm) (144 comments)

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  •  Not surprising (6+ / 0-)

    But does it matter? I confess that Morning Joe is not a part of my world in any way.

    Never watch it or think about it.

    •  I'm not gonna (6+ / 0-)

      get up that early to be annoyed, either.

      But it's the beginning of what I suspect is going to be a full on assault by the torture crowd to rehabilitate themselves and the policy.

      That's the problem with torture. It just doesn't want to be swept under a rug. We'll be looking backward on this one for a while

      When it becomes "uncivil" to call out liars, lying becomes free. -- Rick Perlstein

      by Joan McCarter on Tue May 03, 2011 at 08:22:18 AM PDT

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    •  I don't usually either (3+ / 0-)
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      But I fell asleep with the TV on last night and woke up to Morning Joke. I missed the earlier segment with Giu911ani and the pro-torture conversation, but there was an interesting segment later with Obama's counterterrorism guy Brennan (who as I recall was career CIA and not exactly averse to "enhanced interrogation" when he served the Bush administration) in which Joe point-blank asked him if waterboarding played a role in the intelligence that led to the operation against Osama, and he said, "Not to my knowledge" and went on to list all the resources that were brought to bear:

      "The information that was collected came from many different sources: human sources, technical sources, as well as sources that detainees provided. It was something as a result of the painstaking work that the analysts did.  They pieced it all together that led us to the compound last year and resulted in the very successful operation Sunday."

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