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  •  Some of the crap these republicans are (7+ / 0-)

    saying must be making Obama wonder what he was thinking when he decided not to investigate or prosecute the Bush Administration for war crimes.

    They got away with it and they're bold enough to rub it in Obama's nose.


    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Fri May 06, 2011 at 12:15:10 PM PDT

    •  Maybe he'll do it in his 2nd term. (5+ / 0-)

      They may just push the envelop too much that he eventually takes them to task, but he has to get the American Dream started for the people in his first term, then take out the bad guys in his secon.  We'll see.

      •  This has been my hope (5+ / 0-)

        since the day he was inauguerated...I never expected it in his first term--too much to do to clean up the mess he found himself up to his eyeballs in, and I didn't think he'd ever get a 2nd term if he tried. From your lips to God's ears!  

        "What would you think me if I were capable of seating myself at a table and gorging myself with food and saw about me the children of my fellow beings starving to death." - Eugene Victor Debs

        by DianeNYS on Fri May 06, 2011 at 12:50:34 PM PDT

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        •  Only if you give him.... (3+ / 0-)

          ....comfortable majorities in both House and Senate. If not, throwing a few old men in prison takes a back seat to actions that would benefit the American people in general.

          Abstract justice may demand that Yoo etc. spend the rest of their lives counting bricks in the walls of their cells, but there is little concrete benefit from such an outcome. Deterrence? People who commit those sorts of crimes always think they will get away with it. Retribution? They'll never suffer a minuscule fraction of the pain they inflicted. Symbolism? If a trial convinced the majority of the country that they were guilty and that their actions were evil, it would be worth it. But you know that their supporters will only get more hysterical. It would be just like the Confederacy. The United States is probably the only country in the world that was nearly dismembered by a treasonable conspiracy and on defeating that conspiracy, failed to punish its chief movers.

          It would be good for the United States' reputation in the world, and for the historical record. And, as I said, considered in the abstract, it would be the right thing to do. But if Obama is still in the position of having to scrabble out compromises to pass unemployment insurance extensions and the like, don't be either surprised or hurt if he leaves Yoo and Company to history's tribunal.

      •  Absofing lutely (1+ / 0-)
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        Nothing to lose in 2nd term, there can't be a 3rd. Bush was afraid of getting whisked off to the Hague.
        Next time, if the dumbshit does show up...bye...bye

    •  It'd be great if they took it one step too far (3+ / 0-)

      in their rhetoric and Obamafinally says:

         "Okay, that did it! Let's throw the book at these characters!"

      "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

      by elwior on Fri May 06, 2011 at 01:13:24 PM PDT

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      •  They're telling the world what they (2+ / 0-)
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        did, and not one of them, including Bush, dares to leave this country for fear of being arrested and tried in an international court.


        The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

        by nupstateny on Fri May 06, 2011 at 04:23:33 PM PDT

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    •  It's our nose they're rubbing it in.... (0+ / 0-)

      Without geometry, life is pointless. And blues harmonica players suck.

      by blindcynic on Fri May 06, 2011 at 06:41:26 PM PDT

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