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  •  If Bowen's so deep and brilliant (0+ / 0-)

    why does she say she needs to study whether to stop funding the war in Afghanistan (which she's said in more than one debate, and in more than one public appearance)?

    •  Her position on Afghanistan is clear. . . (1+ / 0-)
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      kurt

      From her website:

      "Now is the time to honor those who have sacrificed in this war. We must bring our troops home quickly and safely. We have paid enough for a war we will never “win,” and meanwhile, our domestic needs are unattended and our national debt has mushroomed."

      She may have said that the speed of the withdrawal needs to be studied.  I don't know, because I haven't read all her public statements and do not remember every single word of those speeches.  

      •  When Bowen was asked point blank (0+ / 0-)

        to sign a pledge to defund the war, she said she'd have to study the issue -- only after ducking the initial request to sign the pledge by entering through another door to the building where a candidates' forum was held.

        •  Her position on the pledge does not (3+ / 0-)
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          Mike S, afausser, camlbacker

          mean she is for the war.  She doesn't want to limit her options before going to Congress.  That is not a sleight against her intelligence.  That is a mark of her intelligence.  The war should end.  She is for the end the war.  I don't need her to sign a pledge saying so.

          I understand that might not be enough for you, but that is for you to decide.  The point is though the pledge is not evidence of her lack of intelligence.  Very intelligent people who I respect like President Obama support continuing the war.  That does not make them less intelligent.

          •  What more does she need to learn? (0+ / 0-)

            If she's against the war, and wants it to end, why would she continue to support funding of belligerence, as opposed to departure?  What is there to study?  Why is this, of all issues, one that she won't take a definitive stand on, while she'll state her views on so much else?  The war in Afghanistan is our longest war ever.  

            She was willing to and did sign a pledge saying that criticism of Israel was off-limits, and that she will carry on Harman's (in fact, miserable) national security policies.  

            You're right, I was not literally accusing Bowen of a lack of intelligence; I was saying, in a short-hand manner, that she was hiding behind the need to study something that as a progressive, should not be a difficult issue, except as a matter of politics, not policy.    

            •  Why do you want to constrain her with a pledge? (1+ / 0-)
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              msblucow

              She's taken a position. I posted to it above.  Do you think she would be any more bound to ending the war in Afghanistan if she signed your pledge?  

              Look at her record, her statements, her district and her position.  What more do you need to prove that she is against the war?  Maybe she doesn't want to pull the troops out immediately because she feels it is better to do it gradually in order to prevent destablizing Afghanistan.  Maybe she wants to fund and end the war through the normal budget process for which the pledge does not allow.

              Either way, she is no more or less bound to ending the war whether she signed this pledge or not.  And she got in trouble from signing the last pledge (Winograd got into the race).  So why would she do so again?

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