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  •  sigh, you just don't get it (2+ / 0-)
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    aliasalias, denise b

    endorsing now with the policies of this administration on education is the equivalent of taking a whipping and saying "thank you may I please have another?"

    There is real anger among the rank and file on a lot of policies of this administration on education.

    There is, and there should be, opposition on key parts of what this administration is proposing on education policy.

    The question then is how best to influence that policy in a positive fashion for the benefit of students -  and quite frankly, that means understanding and properly supporting teachers.

    Given an endorsement now gains nothing with the political operation of the forthcoming campaign -  why would Jim Messina or the Davids even worry when they have the endorsement in their pocket?  Now the question is whether there will even be lip service to key issues that matter greatly to educators.

    "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

    by teacherken on Sun May 08, 2011 at 10:40:08 AM PDT

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    •  i just don't get it? (2+ / 0-)
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      foufou, loblolly

      nice.

      The question then is how best to influence that policy in a positive fashion for the benefit of students -  and quite frankly, that means understanding and properly supporting teachers.

      exactly.  and i don't think this endorsement has anything to do with that goal. because for 2012, the race is between obama and a republican.  and that's just that.

      and it's simply inarguable that obama/dems are better on education than whoever the republicans will offer up.  i.e., if you think duncan's bad...

      expressing dissatisfaction is only tangentially related to/a function of endorsement. the NEA can do that 'til the cows come home in spite of the endorsement, if they wish.

      Given an endorsement now gains nothing with the political operation of the forthcoming campaign -  why would Jim Messina or the Davids even worry when they have the endorsement in their pocket?  Now the question is whether there will even be lip service to key issues that matter greatly to educators.

      and with the GOP, there isn't even the hope of lip service.

      and seriously:  would you have the NEA endorse a republican?  do you think they would, given the current crop?  by what mechanism does withholding an endorsement achieve policy goals?

      It's complicated. - Desperate Housewives

      by Cedwyn on Sun May 08, 2011 at 02:36:51 PM PDT

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    •  i'm not even saying (1+ / 0-)
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      loblolly

      that no one should be upset.  i know teachers know better than the rest of us what works and what doesn't.  and i know too many teachers to think our system is sound right now.

      i just don't see that this endorsement precludes criticism of education policy.  raise the roof!  by all means.  

      but NEA the entity is in the unfortunate position of having to maintain a public face.  and are they really going to go all guerilla and issue scathing press releases about why they haven't (yet) endorsed obama?  because, sad to say, that's what it would take for withholding an endorsement to mean anything.  imHo, of course.  

      it's also a national organization, which means not everyone is going to agree with you or the other members with whom you regularly converse.  maybe the NEA feels they're being appropriately representative?

      anyhoo, i just think that given the big picture landscape, this endorsement isn't the lost opportunity it seems.  because it was kind of a foregone conclusion.  delaying it seems completely pointless.  i could see the fun in exploring the idea of no endorsement whatsoever, but as i said above, that takes some serious hardball to achieve anything.

      on the other hand, they can endorse, thereby acquiring a gigantic platfrom from which to speak their grievances.  i think that would garner much more/better media attention.  an endorsement that presents a thoughtful critique with ideas for improvement versus an announcement that from the outset must take a position of justification/defense of a decision made?  

      i think the endorsement gets the bigger prize in the media narrative, for sure.  and ultimately, this kind of stuff won't be changed unless enough normal people understand what's going on.  america needs to realize that teachers and education are the greatest investment we could ever make.  too bad we're so stupid.

      sorry for spazzing out earlier.

      It's complicated. - Desperate Housewives

      by Cedwyn on Sun May 08, 2011 at 09:34:18 PM PDT

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