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  •  Wrong, this was a boomerang (4+ / 0-)

    All the protests, but fishing opener is a legit non partisan past time that is a honored tradition. I protested at nearly every gathering here in Eau Claire, but I'd be damned if I would go up and picket a man fishing, even Walker. The people up there looked foolish. Honestly, we have to maintain the best image, and as usual the Democrats haven't got the common sense to tell the difference. And all of my workmates agreed-this was stupid.

    Muzzle me, hr me,try and stop me but I will speak my mind

    by realwischeese on Mon May 09, 2011 at 07:30:24 PM PDT

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    •  I'm not sure that I agree, but I certainly (14+ / 0-)

      understand your point. I'm not going to say anything profound, like "fishing is a religion" but people do take its peaceful meditative purity quite seriously. It is this "break with tradition" that I find compelling about the protest: it wasn't expected, it was out of the ordinary, and it got media attention in a fairly sympathetic light. As you well know, it has been nigh on impossible to get a fair report in local news, at least in Milwaukee.

      I do think that your "as usual the Democrats haven't got the common sense to tell the difference" is overstated and a bit cynical...

      Also, I really don't feel that Walker "deserves" peace while out on a lake. It is a staged media event, not a day out with his boys. It is as political as his defunding the EPA regarding their wetlands acquisitions.

    •  Tell my wife, a Madison Special Ed teacher. (15+ / 0-)

      Teaching special education students used to be a legit non partisan profession, but no more thanks to Scott Walker. He's labeled my wife a thug, taken 8% of her take-home pay, and he's is in Washington tonight plotting the dismantling of public special education services.

      He deserves every legal and peaceful intrusion we can muster.

      As soon as he stops attacking my family, I'll let up.

      I heard that the protesters were very respectful to the fish and the other fishermen. They drifted by quietly with signs.

      it is hereby DECLARED that 2011 Wisconsin Act 10 has not been published within the meaning of Wis. Stats. §§ 991.11, 35.095(1)(b) and 35.095(3)(b), and is therefore not in effect.

      by Giles Goat Boy on Mon May 09, 2011 at 08:34:59 PM PDT

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      •  GGB: I also see this as a declared war, (1+ / 0-)
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        though I mean that in non-violent terms: a rhetorical war (similar to the war on terror, or on cancer) declared, for really no reason or purpose other than aggressive assertions of socio-political right wing values on the middle class and urban poor. In such a war, we have no recourse except constant struggle.

        And I love the spunk of the Boating Rebellion!

    •  Fly-ins to private businesses, closed events (8+ / 0-)

      This is the first public appearance up north that I'm aware of that he has actually appeared in public.  In Eau Claire he's flown up what, 3? 4? times and every time been shuttled to a private business to conduct his publicity stunts.  When his drivers realize there are protestors out there, they make sure he leaves by the back way.

      I'm not keen on disrupting everyone's fishing opener experience, but on the other hand, Walker has brought it on.  He has had copious opportunity to appear in public, to address the public.

      The protestors were on the other side of Lake Wissota.

      Walker and his henchmen have been saying that the protests are dying out as people learn to "accept change."  I consider that a taunt.

      •  Yes, this "accept change" line is really (1+ / 0-)
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        irritating: as if we are all a bunch of old horses who don't want to go into a new stall. "Change is good" and all we have to do is learn "to accept it."  I think that this is what he means when he refers to his plans as "progressive." It gets downright Orwellian regarding the slippage of any meaningful use of language.

    •  Can See Your Point to a Degree (6+ / 0-)

      I would lean more towards your way of thinking if the protesters had been screaming, trying to foul his line, etc. but to just float around with signs I don't see as being invasive to his day of fishing.

      There may have been screaming or other things that looked bad that weren't shown but given what I saw it was a fairly quiet protest, especially given what the man has done and continues to try and do to the state.  

      If Walker himself tried to stay under the radar in his governing style then I can see giving him a decent berth.  But at every turn he has been combative, confrontational, and hell bent on doing as much damage as possible in a short time.  Given that he has politicized everything I don't think he should expect to not be protested and to date our side has been very civil or again from what I've seen it has appeared that way.  

      Good points though about projecting the right image.  

      and now a word from our diabolical corporate overlords...

      by Pursang on Mon May 09, 2011 at 09:06:32 PM PDT

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    •  No rest for the wicked, I say (8+ / 0-)

      Protest him everywhere.  Put a sign outside the window of his toilet, too.

      I'm only surprised the guy didn't have his good squad close the lake and install metal detectors and require body searches for access.  I'll bet one of his cronies will growl that the protestors caused a bazillion dollars of damage to the lake, too.

      This guy deserves far more than he's getting.  Let him eat, sleep, and drink protestors for the rest of his life.

      Those boat protestors rocked!  How ingenious.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Mon May 09, 2011 at 10:01:40 PM PDT

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      •  Agreed... I like the idea of metal detecting the (2+ / 0-)
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        whole out-of-doors! One thing I'll say about Walker: he is good with staying on his message, and calmly saying on camera that "it is their right to protest..." Of course, we know that he would actually like to arrest them all, fine them, throw them in jail. But he does have a kind of reptilian discipline with his implacable messaging.

        •  I particularly like the talking point (2+ / 0-)
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          about how he should be "left alone" at non-political events.  He is personally affecting the lives of hundreds of thousands of people 24/7 who won't get a second respite from his actions.  

          That video of protestors floating past him with those signs made my month!  Thanks for posting it.

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Tue May 10, 2011 at 11:03:16 AM PDT

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    •  Dems have to stop being nice. (5+ / 0-)

      I keep hearing that we shouldn't stoop to their level, that we should be civil, that we are the good guys and should show it, while they use every underhanded trick in the book.  Being nice might make us feel superior, but it won't win any wars.  You actually have to shoot back.  If the local media covered this when they won't cover other events, then it was a good thing to do.  Walker seems intent on selling WI to the corporations.  He doesn't deserve to have a quiet fishing trip.  He deserves to be in jail.  And if it takes disrupting a fishing trip to make the point, that is what should happen, at the very least.  

      The party of No is well on their way to becoming the party of nobody. Alan Grayson

      by Leftleaner on Mon May 09, 2011 at 11:05:59 PM PDT

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    •  respectfully, I disagree. (5+ / 0-)

      Walker can't be allowed to rest, and the Dem Party can't be allowed to lose its momentum till Walker is recalled. These types of stories are fun, and they fuel the fire and keep the whole business in the media spot light. They must keep it up. And turn it into a joke if necessary, but never quit.

      Walker has to be hounded till he loses his cool. He needs to be faced with sincere protestors peering out of his sock drawer in the morning, and see badgers when he opens his medicine cabinet for his toothbrush at night.

      We will know we are on the right track when SNL turns it into a skit.

      Which makes me think... for those of us who are far away, what gift could we send Walker? I'm thinking of the hangers that have been sent to pro life politicians in the past...

      I know! Let's all send him cases of  COKE!! Or Gazillions of copies of the state constitution? What would ruffle his feathers and make him squirm? Anyone?

      •  great question... (0+ / 0-)

        When he rescinded funding (proposed) for recycling around WI, protestors put lots of plastics on the lawn of the Guv mansion. Instead of cases of coke (which after all have value) I'd say only crushed coke cans. Let us know if you have other ideas!

        •  Ah. Coke was a kneejerk thought. (0+ / 0-)

          Empty cans would certainly be cheaper than full cans to transport....... I suppose there is no reason we couldn't ship them from Ca.

          Seems like there should be something better though.
          Tribbles or something. Hamsters......

    •  Walker cashed in his Koch chips (2+ / 0-)
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      and declared war on the Wi middle class.

      Fuck him, he started this thing. If I see him taking a dump in an outhouse out in the middle of Nowhere Wisonsin, I'm going to stand outside and protest against his crooked ass while he takes his dump.

      Walker is a Koch Brothers sponsored reverse Robinhood, he deserves to have a sign in his face every waking hour of every single day.

      "He's the one, who likes all our pretty songs. And he likes to sing along. And he likes to shoot his gun. But he knows not what it means" - Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Tue May 10, 2011 at 12:39:54 AM PDT

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    •  I agree with you in part (1+ / 0-)
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      I like the fishing protest because it "proves" that protesters aren't just from Madison, college kids, etc.etc.

      But, I dislike the idea of following somebody everywhere.

      While I sort of agree with you and your co-workers, I also think that this is what you get. The policies that Walker's administration have proposed are not just "Republican" they are very, very extreme. The idea that people would not protest or that they would all be very well behaved about it, is unrealistic in my opinion.

      Walker's style has been very confrontational.  When the protesters in Madison were super "peaceful" there were numerous attempts  to dismiss them as "slobs",  imply they were violent and had caused a lot of damage.

      So, I think you reap what you sow.

      I wouldn't picket Walker fishing either, but, I think when people have proven they will not listen to their constituents that is what you are going to get.

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