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  •  Alan Simpson is a lying sack of shit. (2+ / 0-)
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    And whoever appointed him to the Catfood Commission is full of baloney.

    Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope... --RFK

    by expatjourno on Thu May 12, 2011 at 11:23:01 AM PDT

    •  Obama appointed him. Alan Simpson is not a liar. (0+ / 0-)

      Obstinate and wrong headed about some things, but not, I think, a liar.

      "The worst that can happen to any group of people working to unseat an existing power base is their failure to imagine the lengths to which those in power will go to keep it." Cognitive Dissonance at Zero Hedge

      by CarolinNJ on Thu May 12, 2011 at 11:35:53 AM PDT

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      •  Do you believe that Alan Simpson (4+ / 0-)

        actually does not know the information outlined in the diary? Do you believe Alan Simpson really thinks that the demographic bulge of the baby boom wasn't ever considered before? Simpson has actually stated that although he was already a US Senator when the 1983 Greenspan/SS reforms were enacted.
        Simpson is much more than obstinate.

        "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

        by tardis10 on Thu May 12, 2011 at 12:08:17 PM PDT

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      •  Your naïveté is touching. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        by expatjourno on Thu May 12, 2011 at 12:13:11 PM PDT

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      •  He does say what he thinks. (2+ / 0-)
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        Which is the problem. His beef with reporters who refute his erroneous statements about SS with facts is that they have the numbers on their side! Now, that is nerve! How dare you be right!, says Simpson. Really. These people have no shame. Whaddaya

        •  As I wrote, obstinate and wrong headed. (0+ / 0-)

          But not a liar, which was the original point of departure.

          "The worst that can happen to any group of people working to unseat an existing power base is their failure to imagine the lengths to which those in power will go to keep it." Cognitive Dissonance at Zero Hedge

          by CarolinNJ on Thu May 12, 2011 at 01:06:58 PM PDT

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          •  No. He is a liar. He just plays obstinate on TV. (1+ / 0-)
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            Seriously. He has been spouting the same claptrap for decades. Literally. I am quite certain he knows the facts by now.

            Tell me, are you one of those who thought John McCain was ever a Maverick?

            Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope... --RFK

            by expatjourno on Thu May 12, 2011 at 01:37:34 PM PDT

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            •  The anonymous staff surveys that used to come out (1+ / 0-)
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              every so often rating Congresspeople characterized McCain as shallow and opportunistic.  Because the surveys were of congressional staff, I always figured they knew him better than I did.  And some reading in his bio led me to add reckless.   I believe McCain's Vietnam plane crash was consonant with his earlier training crashes:  McCain had crashed more than one plane in training.  He paid a terrible price for that war zone crash, and it might have happened in any case, but his history of extreme impulsiveness made me wonder.  That impulsive jump from the campaign to Washington to sort out the economic crisis is just McCain's kind of brainless jump-first-figure-out-where-you're-coming-down-later manic energy.  No thought, all action.  I believe McCain's energy and limbic brain explosiveness arises in anger.

              So, no, my reading about McCain over the decades has never led me to think he was/is a maverick.  He's just a compulsive, reflexive contrarian who is propelled by anger.

              "The worst that can happen to any group of people working to unseat an existing power base is their failure to imagine the lengths to which those in power will go to keep it." Cognitive Dissonance at Zero Hedge

              by CarolinNJ on Thu May 12, 2011 at 03:37:22 PM PDT

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            •  Do you read minds? My take on Simpson is he could (0+ / 0-)

              easily match you in stubbornness.

              "The worst that can happen to any group of people working to unseat an existing power base is their failure to imagine the lengths to which those in power will go to keep it." Cognitive Dissonance at Zero Hedge

              by CarolinNJ on Thu May 12, 2011 at 03:39:53 PM PDT

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              •  Only the supremely credulous would believe... (0+ / 0-)

                ...Simpson's schtick.

                Did you even read this diary? Or the diary it linked to?

                Simpson isn't some pig ignorant hayseed. He just plays on on TV.

                Simpson has been n a crusade to dismantle Social Security and Medicare for decades. DECADES.

                Your opinion deserves nothing but scorn and contempt.

                Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope... --RFK

                by expatjourno on Thu May 12, 2011 at 11:35:46 PM PDT

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                •  Which you've so graciously supplied. (0+ / 0-)

                  "The worst that can happen to any group of people working to unseat an existing power base is their failure to imagine the lengths to which those in power will go to keep it." Cognitive Dissonance at Zero Hedge

                  by CarolinNJ on Fri May 13, 2011 at 12:03:31 AM PDT

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                  •  The only difference between what Simpson says... (0+ / 0-)

                    ...and what Pete Peterson and others say is Simpsons faux-folksy demeanor. They all use the same repeatedly debunked talking points because the truth means nothing to them. They are all ruthless liars with the same Randian class-war agenda.

                    Do you think that Simpson honestly believes the EXACT SAME THINGS that Pete Peterson is lying about? Or do you think that Pete Peterson, Alice Rivlin, Erskine Bowles, etc actually believe what they are saying and are all just "mistaken" as well?

                    Simpson has a schtick. A persona. He uses it to deliver the exact same talking points as the rest of them. Duh.

                    Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope... --RFK

                    by expatjourno on Fri May 13, 2011 at 12:39:15 AM PDT

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                    •  Of course they believe it. People believe all (0+ / 0-)

                      sorts of things that aren't true.  It's a matter of where we're emotionally invested.  Alice Rivlin, for instance, is a perfect example of the fallacy, conceit, if you will, of the PhD out of her territory but utterly oblivious to her own ignorance because......she's got a doctorate.  She's got government experience.  A salesman who sold to doctors told me that doctors' conceits about their superior intelligence made them easy to sell to.  I think it was Paul Hornung who was eventually indicted in an investment scam that specialized in selling trash to the highly educated.  An article at the time explained how easy it is to fool people who imagine their expertise in one area gives them a kind of universal intelligence.  Need I say, it doesn't.  

                      Alan Simpson, who can be very personable, is noted for his Olympian arrogance and doubtless imagines himself an expert on many thing he doesn't have half a fact about.  He also has been forthrightly supportive of same sex marriage and open military service, he's dismissive of homophobia, and he supports a woman's right to make her own reproductive choices, without any government intrusion.  He's ill informed about many other issues, including SS and Medicare because he has an invested bias in a certain point of view.

                      And it should be said that Simpson's views of gay marriage and military service, homophobia. and abortion rights are vehemently opposed by people who fervently believe otherwise.  Difficult as it may be to come to terms with, there are people, some of them extremely influential, who don't give a tinker's dam about a middle class.  Irrelevant.  Obstructionist, even, and not at all in their best interests to support.  I would put Simpson among them, but I'm not going to deny his right headedness on some issues.

                      "The worst that can happen to any group of people working to unseat an existing power base is their failure to imagine the lengths to which those in power will go to keep it." Cognitive Dissonance at Zero Hedge

                      by CarolinNJ on Fri May 13, 2011 at 01:50:06 AM PDT

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