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  •  Yeah, we know they are bluffing (8+ / 0-)

    but the dems have folded for less...

    "I'm not scared of anyone or anything, Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?" Jack Hawksmoor

    by skyounkin on Thu May 12, 2011 at 03:21:35 PM PDT

    •  Yeah, there's lots of dry powder (3+ / 0-)
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      littered all over the populace . . .

    •  and that is why (5+ / 0-)
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      the GOP plays these games.  They know that the DLC Dems fetish for bipartisanship and compromise always demoralizes and angers the Dem voting base.

      Repubs know they can make fools of Dems and erode their support from voters by tricking them into compromising on essential, popular programs like Medicare.

      Does the WH and Reid have to take the bait on GOP threats?  No, but they'll do it anyway.

      The GOP plans to win in 2012 not with their great ideas or popularity, but by using the WH willingness to compromise to demoralize the Dem base.

      It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~ Aristotle

      by Betty Pinson on Thu May 12, 2011 at 03:45:19 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, I will not be surprised at all if the WH (1+ / 0-)
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        pushes a cave "compromise."  I think that via their ol' pal Alan Simpson that there's already been a back-room deal carved out ahead of time (as there was with the Public Option sell-out) on this. Meanwhile, it's all theater with the Dems.

        Conservatives are] engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; ...the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. JK Galbraith

        by Vtdblue on Thu May 12, 2011 at 04:42:30 PM PDT

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        •  And we'll have plenty enough people here (3+ / 0-)
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          telling us it was the best the Dems could get under the circumstances.  And anyone who complains is a purist, or some such crap.  How could anyone ever be demoralized by a party that refuses to stand up to bullies?

          I refuse to represent my political beliefs using numbers. It isn't accurate, nor is it helpful. But I'm around a -10 on both scales.

          by AoT on Thu May 12, 2011 at 05:01:43 PM PDT

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