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  •  Thanks, tsb (11+ / 0-)

    It must have been terrifying to have been caught in that crowd.  Were you in place where you were in danger?

    There's a great line in that diary, after a near-tragedy in an earlier festival-seating stampede and a commission charged to investigate makes its recommendation:

    The Committee further recommends that the Riverfront Coliseum management be granted the necessary time to reduce "Festival Seating" events through an orderly process, rather than through some type of official control or regulation

    So of course, since the city didn't force the arena operators to do anything, they didn't, and eleven people died as a result.

    We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. - Justice Louis D. Brandeis

    by dsteffen on Sun May 15, 2011 at 05:06:09 PM PDT

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    •  I saw then in Detroit about a week after the (6+ / 0-)

      Cincinnati disaster.  It was also a festival seating show (guess there wasn't enough time to make them do something safer), and we had no problem waltzing up and sitting right in front of the stage.  

      They only call it Class War when we fight back.

      by lineatus on Sun May 15, 2011 at 07:38:58 PM PDT

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      •  I guess good seats... (8+ / 0-)

        ...could qualify as an unexpected benefit of tragedy, but I'd hate to advocate it on an on-going basis.  ;-)

        Festival seating never really went away -- the promoters and performers were too tied to it and exerted a tremendous amount of clout.  The best most municipalities were able to manage were regulations requiring adequate crowd control personnel, emergency medical personnel on-site, and agreements by the organizers to foot the bills and not externalize cost to the taxpayers.

        Even Cincinnati, the one city that did ban festival seating in the wake of the tragedy, eventually threw it under the bus in order to get Springsteen.

        We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. - Justice Louis D. Brandeis

        by dsteffen on Sun May 15, 2011 at 08:12:02 PM PDT

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    •  To be honest from where we were we had no idea (2+ / 0-)
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      that anything had even happened. It wasn't until about 20 minutes inside that rumors started that there had been some sort of incident and even then we didn't know exactly what that  incident was. I heard the details about it on the radio on the way home.

      If the Republicans will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. Adlai E. Stevenson

      by teabaggerssuckbalz on Mon May 16, 2011 at 04:17:43 AM PDT

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      •  Sounds like... (0+ / 0-)

        ...that was a good to have been, then.  Under the circumstances.

        We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. - Justice Louis D. Brandeis

        by dsteffen on Mon May 16, 2011 at 04:51:51 PM PDT

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