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  •  It's more of reverse corporatism. (6+ / 0-)

    Corporatism originally meant state control over groups like labor and businesses to keep them working for the national interest.  In this situation the businesses have usurped the role of the state, and are abusing their power to keep the state working for their narrow interests.

    "Intolerance is something which belongs to the religions we have rejected." - J.J. Rousseau -6.38, -4.15

    by James Allen on Sun May 15, 2011 at 03:48:45 PM PDT

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    •  James Allen, that is not corporatism ... (8+ / 0-)

      corporatism was not state control over groups like labour and business; to be honest that was not the situation at all in Italy or Germany. The idea was that labourers, farmers, industrialists, et al worked together  in councils and agreement (theoretically) to advance the national interests. All capitalist states facilitate the needs of corporations and financiers; however, sometimes they need to tell them what is good for them and the system as opposed to the short-term interests of the capitalists themselves (hence the new deal and the post-war consensus). What we have now is that the state has bowed to the interests of corporations and the bourgeois democratic basis of the state as a social contract is becoming rapidly irrelevant.

      I know you are not a big fan of Lenin, but read State and Revolution which has a very interesting discussion of the state in capitalist society.

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Sun May 15, 2011 at 04:01:19 PM PDT

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      •  You're not telling me (0+ / 0-)

        anything I don't know about corporatism.  I was just speaking of it simplistically.

        "Intolerance is something which belongs to the religions we have rejected." - J.J. Rousseau -6.38, -4.15

        by James Allen on Sun May 15, 2011 at 04:05:06 PM PDT

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        •  no offense, but this is not a group site where (0+ / 0-)

          one needs to speak simplistically ... simplistic statements are often only half-truths and contain too many errors. I was giving the simplistic statement as you appeared confused.

          "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

          by NY brit expat on Sun May 15, 2011 at 04:29:30 PM PDT

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