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  •  It's a rarity, but I disagree with you on this one (3+ / 0-)

    I say this as someone with an intense interest in UFO's.

    I believe people should not trespass. If they do,and get caught, then they should be prepared for the consequences.

    I have never met a person who did not mind being hacked. In fact, those that have such skills take it really hard when there is such an attempt.

    As a kid, I was taught not to wander onto such-and-such's property because s/he was known to shoot trespassers. It is a lesson that has served many people well. I'm sorry this mother didn't get through to her son.

    It's an ancient concept, but still a useful one.

    "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so." ...Bertrand Russell

    by sebastianguy99 on Mon May 16, 2011 at 12:11:55 PM PDT

    •  I guess the issue with me (3+ / 0-)
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      Excuse me but I closed the research browser on this diary, but I could find the link if you need it, is that what he is accused of wasn't a crime in England, or if it was it was a 6 month offense.  The case they are building against him is trumped up, he didn't actually do any damage.

      Now the crux of his defense and I have to agree is that the government did not reasonably put up security.  He literally walked into things with no passwords and went from there.

      Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

      by Adept2u on Mon May 16, 2011 at 12:17:36 PM PDT

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      •  I love the info he was after, just not the means (1+ / 0-)
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        (yes, I am a trekkie and X-File fanatic)

        I do not think this guy is some operative working against our nation's interests. In fact, what he did should have caused us to do a much better job securing our information. I hope some heads rolled as a result of him just "walking in".

        I do not think he deserves 60 years given the allegations that have been reported.

        That said, I am against people letting themselves into places they do not have any right to go. I think because it is cyberspace, we tend to think of such transgressions differently than if a person who picks a lock of someone's home, enters, and looks for/copies/removes sensitive personal information.

        "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so." ...Bertrand Russell

        by sebastianguy99 on Mon May 16, 2011 at 01:13:30 PM PDT

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    •  no passwords were set on those accounts. (1+ / 0-)
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      Log in with a username, any username, and press Return.

      That's zero security, and it's an attractive nuisance.  

      The kid said he saw people logged into those machines from all over the world.  Some of those no doubt were foreign spies.  Would that ever have come to light but for this case?

      So on one hand I agree that hacking is a no-no, but on the other hand, when someone like this whose intentions are not harmful runs across something like this that most definitely is, he ought to get off with a slap on the wrist and the people responsible for security on those systems ought to be fired for cause.  

    •  meanwhile we apparently have... (1+ / 0-)
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      .... a NASA office dedicated to photoshopping the UFOs out of satellite photos!  

      Well, holy cow!

      There's really no excuse for that.  It's destroying data that could be useful in ascertaining what some of these things are.  That's unacceptable in any field: you don't go destroying data that could be useful to science.  

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