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  •  An excellent diary; T/R (30+ / 0-)

    I grew up Catholic, and my Democratic leanings stem from the core values of the religion. The abortion issue is one where I strongly disagreed, because while I may not want people to have abortions, it's not my right to prevent people from having them.

    However, their commitment to helping the poorest among us should not be overlooked. Many Catholics are involved in charities, and give back to their community.  The problem, as always, is not the religion, but the people interpreting it.

    I was absolutely stunned when I went off to college and listened to the priest talk about the importance of making your own decisions, rather than the traditional dogma I was taught about the strict codes and rules I needed to follow as I was growing up.  The priest explained that the church believes that its now 2000 years of experience would provide a good framework for living.  That was not the view of my parish, where the church made the rules and the parishoners followed them.

    I won't defend some of the bad actions by the priests, but while the church may believe that poor women should bear those children, they'll also want the community (i.e., the government) to provide the services they need to properly rear those children.

    "People should not be afraid of their government; governments should be afraid of their people." --V

    by MikeTheLiberal on Thu May 19, 2011 at 09:13:52 AM PDT

    •  Yes - the post Vatican II appeal to conscience (14+ / 0-)

      especially in the United States, is really important.  Just for example, the vast majority of Catholic women don't adhere to strict Catholic teaching on contraception because they find that it's abhorrent to have an older adult unmarried male priest telling them about sex.  ("You want a baby?  You go ahead and carry it!")

      I've recently found that Catholic teaching on the value of labor should be something we integrate back into the "seamless garment" of Catholic social teaching.  Women are not merely the site of harvesting unborn babies - their labor is immeasurably valuable and must not be exploited, but should be protected.  This is one reason it's so phenomenal that Obama did what he did in tying children's healthcare to a fully "pro-life" stance and worked across the aisle on that issue in Illinois.

      Stop clapping. Stop screaming. Open your mind. Listen.

      by Benintn on Thu May 19, 2011 at 10:02:17 AM PDT

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    •  Can't add much to what you've said (7+ / 0-)

      My liberalism was formed by my Catholic upbringing. The nuns and priests of my childhood, along with the Jesuits and Sisters I had in college, are responsible for having kept me from succumbing to a greed mentality by which I could have been pretty tempted.

      I'm not running around in sackcloth and ashes and I enjoy my career success but this background also kept me grounded and formed my social conscience.

      I may no longer attend Mass , have many disagreements with Church hierarchy and politics, and have no patience for blind faith Catholics who believe the Church has never done wrong or can't. But I wouldn't be the liberal I am without my upbringing a huge part of which was the Catholic church.

      We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

      by Vita Brevis on Thu May 19, 2011 at 01:31:57 PM PDT

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    •  Well said... (6+ / 0-)

      The American nuns have always been a force behind strong social programs. They serve the poor. The liberal Catholics are among the best democrats.

      "Corruptio Optima Pessimi" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

      by zenox on Thu May 19, 2011 at 01:32:34 PM PDT

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