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  •  Gimme the most charitable reading of this that (2+ / 0-)
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    you can possibly come up with.

    What is it that Republicans object to?

    I have to be honest - I haven't paid close attention to the folks who support a filibuster.  I don't know what their concerns are.  (Something about legislating from the bench? That's different HOW from Citizens United, attempts to overturn Roe, efforts against insurance mandates, etc.?)

    Stop clapping. Stop screaming. Open your mind. Listen.

    by Benintn on Thu May 19, 2011 at 11:32:17 AM PDT

    •  I think their big objections are (5+ / 0-)
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      the comments Liu made in opposing John Roberts and Samuel Alito. They also oppose his writings on affirmative action. I think there is some fear of putting a young, liberal on the court(Liu is 39-40, I believe). He could be a SCOTUS pick down the road, or just sit on the 9th circuit for 40 years. That's a similar fear Dems had when they rejected a young nominee during the Bush administration, Miguel Estrada.

      •  Seems like payback. (2+ / 0-)
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        The idea is that they cannot tolerate dissent - and what's more, will repay dissent by politicizing nominations.

        This is utter hypocrisy, and is making a mockery of the Senate.  The very same damn people who claimed you can't filibuster are now filibustering ... and what's worse, they have no good reason to do it other than to score political points.

        Stop clapping. Stop screaming. Open your mind. Listen.

        by Benintn on Thu May 19, 2011 at 11:48:05 AM PDT

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        •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

          It's very bad. It makes no difference at this late date, but the Democrats opened this can of worms with Bork, and it's been largely about payback for both sides ever since. I see no reason to think there will be any resolution any time soon.

          The Wikipedia article is worth reading:

          "Even before his [Powell's] expected retirement on June 27, 1987, Senate Democrats had asked liberal leaders to form "a solid phalanx" to oppose whomever President Ronald Reagan nominated to replace Powell, assuming that it would tilt the court rightward. Democrats warned Reagan there would be a fight over the nomination."

    •  They object to Obama being president (8+ / 0-)

      and Dems trying to promote their agenda. While I'm sure that many of these fuckwads genuinely objected to Liu because he's against slavery and child labor and all those other evil liberal commie positions, they all voted against cloture for primarily political reasons. They want to deny Obama & Dems every opportunity to do what they want to do, and will continue to do so as long as Dems keep holding out their hand to get slapped and refuse to go all-out to destroy them.

      Weakness invites aggression. ALWAYS. I don't care how many ways Obama and his defenders spin their weakness, but they're weak, and only a fool doesn't know or admit that. So long as they continue being weak, this will keep on happening. I don't know if he's weak because he hates conflict, is afraid of conflict, or believes in magical bipartisan unicorns, but he's weak, and everything else is just talk.

      "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" --Alexander Hamilton

      by kovie on Thu May 19, 2011 at 11:39:46 AM PDT

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