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  •  I tend towards the (11+ / 0-)

    "We're totally fucked" cohort. It's a matter of inertia. Huge giant amounts of inertia that is in motion.

    We're going to stop that soon, how?

    I love you for keeping this up, Fish. The more information, the better. You're a brave and stalwart person.

    I've long suspected that the early warnings were by people who were math challenged. I don't study math but I have the kind of brain that can intuitively understand big numbers. Scope.

    I've long suspected that very few people have had any sense of the potential of positive feedback phenomena, with a variety of vectors. Every time I read about another one (methane clathrates, albedo, you name it) it starts looking magnitudes bigger.

    How many humans can comprehend magnitudes?

    We're fucked. We might be able to survive as a species. But there are too many crazy and intentionally ignorant around for us to be able to pick this one out of the fire. They won't let us. They hate us. They've been taught to hate us.

    We still have some time to prepare. But we aren't going to be able to stop it. It's already out of control.

    I'm glad I'm a member of this blog who has made at least some contacts with reasonable, intelligent, and sane people. You never know when that might come in handy.

    •  the underlying problem (5+ / 0-)

      is that due to the capture of the political process by the private jet crowd, what we have in most democracies is rule by the elites.

      Who are proving themselves completely incompetent at managing the affairs of the nations they have taken over, though this is disguised by the fact that they still work through politicians who got their jobs because they do as they are told.

      The idiot who used to run the IMF ... W ... people who got their jobs running things via connections rather than competence are the real problem, global warming and economic disaster are the symptoms.

      You've read Jared Diamond's book Collapse, I assume.

      Peak Oil is NOW! Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Fri May 20, 2011 at 03:51:20 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, I've read Collapse (1+ / 0-)
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        And also a fair amount of other works on related issues.

        I'm currently becoming a big Derrick Jensen fan.  He has a website.

        Hardly anybody can handle Derrick. But his writing resonates greatly with me.

        •  the point I should have made about (1+ / 0-)
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          incompetent elites is that they are not only incompetent at running the world for everyone's benefit, they are incompetent at running it even for their own.

          Their delusion that enough money can buy them out of global warming is going to screw not only their kids, but many of the wealthy who are currently heads of families.

          Basically, anyone < 60 should be trying to limit the consequences of global warming for their own personal benefit, because anyone in that age bracket is NOT likely to die before "things get really bad".

          It's equivalent to the wealthy classes in Rome cheaping out on military defense because they didn't want to pay for it ... with barbarian armies on the march in their general direction. Suicidally short-sighted.

          Peak Oil is NOW! Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

          by alizard on Sat May 21, 2011 at 03:22:02 PM PDT

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