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  •  Maybe that would teach so-called Democrats ... (0+ / 2-)
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    Albanius, Dion

    that effing over the progressives isn't good policy. I'd vote for a Yellow Dog before I'd vote for Obama, and if that Yellow Dog is a Republican so be it.

    •  Barack Obama is worse than a Yellow Dog? (2+ / 0-)
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      Progressive Republican. They haven't had any progressive candidates for years so I have been voting for the lesser of two evils, ie Democratic :-)

      •  The problem is,... (0+ / 0-)

        that even if you could primary Obama, which I think is a poor idea, there is no alternative on the Dem side.  To get where you want to go (if it's not the current national trajectory), you need the following recipe in a candidate:

        1.  Candidate who is dedicated to your ideology, who truly believes what you believe.
        2.  Candidate must have charisma, style, and great communication skills.
        3.  Candidate must be persuasive, and able to appeal to something deep inside a person in order to get that person to listen to something new, and perhaps change their point of view.  This is an intangible, but we know it when we see it.
        4.  Candidate with no personal scandals and/or split personality that will expose them as frauds (i.e. no John Edwards/Bill Clinton types).
        5.  A bit of luck and the right circumstances (probably the same thing).

        In the last 100 years, we've had exactly four of these presidents:  Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, and Reagan.  Despite their charisma and communication skills, neither Clinton nor Obama were true believers, and you can't even start counting if you can't get past number 1.

        A primary with the crew we've got, wouldn't do anything but make a walk-over into a tough re-election, at best.  Stick with BHO, and just be glad the GOP can't implement the harshest parts of their agenda.

      •  Don't know much about history ??? (0+ / 1-)
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        Yellow Dog Democrats was a term applied to U.S. Southern voters who voted solely for Democratic candidates, with the term commencing in the late 19th century. Due to Republican president Abraham Lincoln's leading the Union against the Confederacy, these voters would allegedly "vote for a yellow dog before they would vote for any Republican".[1][2] Currently, the term is now more generally applied to refer to any Democrat who will vote a straight Party ticket under any circumstances.

        BTW the last Republican I voted for was Richard Nixon. He was a Keynesian, something that can't be said about Obama.

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