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  •  And maybe it's just early in the day, but isn't it (8+ / 0-)

    interesting that the gossip diaries and the stuff about Israel and Guns and LGBT and other little corners of "progressive" interest draw huge participation but this subject, which is about, get it, SURVIVAL OF THE FREAKIN' SPECIES, draws a couple of dozen.

    "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

    by jm214 on Sun May 22, 2011 at 02:12:54 PM PDT

    •  I've been reading.... But, had much more (1+ / 0-)
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      important things going on.... Tornado 15 miles to the south of me... all has basically quieted down to heavy thunderstorms.

      •  May the Great Spirit keep you and your family safe (3+ / 0-)
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        from harm.

        The world becomes an increasingly dangerous place as humans keep messing with it, and too few of us are doing or trying to do what's needed to keep the rest of us alive, the "rest" being very busy going about the business of increasing their "share" of everything without an Eloi's mindless glance at what's really going on.

        "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

        by jm214 on Sun May 22, 2011 at 02:28:33 PM PDT

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        •  It sounds like mainly minor property damage. (3+ / 0-)
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          You know, siding beaten to a pulp by 2 inch hail, holes in roofs from same, maybe an old barn and/or shed blown over.  That's just around here.  A highway at the Iowa/Minnesota border (around Howard Co) has been closed due to tornado damage.  It's sounding like northern parts of Minneapolis took the worst of it this afternoon.

          I agree, there is much that 'we' can do to minimize the impact of coming years.  Unfortunately, it appears that everything has to fit into a 30 second sound bite in order to get any attention.  There is no political will to make any of the necessary changes and the ones that want to 'help' in making plans and appropriate changes are being scoffed as loony-toons.  When the shit really hits the fan..... the 'deniers' are all going to whine about nothing having been done.  There are way too many that are voting for people who has no interest in helping make necessary changes.

          My dad is very happy about the fact that his eldest granddaughter is being taught how to use a rifle and shotgun by her stepdad.  She's turning twelve this year and will be getting her own shotgun for her birthday.  She also has a black belt in martial arts and will be testing for 2nd degree black this fall.  The youngest is also in martial arts.  They'll be able to defend themselves, but have no clue on how to sew, or cook, or garden, etc....  They're still young enough though that they can learn.

          •  It's all about priorities, isn't it? (3+ / 0-)
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            "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

            by jm214 on Sun May 22, 2011 at 02:53:07 PM PDT

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            •  effective self-defense skills.... (2+ / 0-)
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              .... provide the discipline and confidence to learn other skills that are needed for community resilience.

              •  Yeah, too bad those "self defense skills" translat (0+ / 0-)

                e so easily into "effective road rage" and beating up people in bars and pounding the crap out of your wife and/or kids and all the rest. "Community resilience?" What kind of stuff do YOU drink? I wonder how well Our Troops We Support, with all their "effective training," will do in encouraging "community resilience" when (if) they ever are  Brought Home?

                But then I happen to like guns, and know that the Kung Fu Wizard who brings his "effective skills" to a gunfight is going to come up short. I gotta say, on small acquaintance, that you are a person I would not like to spend a lot of time with. And I am sure you reciprocate.

                "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

                by jm214 on Sun May 22, 2011 at 06:50:53 PM PDT

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                •  The martial arts training has given eldest niece (3+ / 0-)
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                  a whole bunch of self confidence.  You'd never know she's been trained watching and talking with her.  She does not talk about it at all.  The aunts and uncles have to pull it out of her.  But, she is definitely sure of herself.

                  If a person has only the martial arts training and not the other social 'training' then yeah, they're the ones that go off in the bars, etc.  The niece is being taught proper behavior.  Not only by the family, schools, church, but also by her martial arts instructor.

                  You are correct in that knowing martial arts is useless when the other party comes with a gun.

                •  dude, check your pot for pesticides. (1+ / 0-)
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                  Whatever you're smoking this evening is making you say crazy shit.

                  Martial arts for girls >> road rage? bar fights? spouse & child abuse?   Huh?

                  NChristine, you, and I all agree about firearms.  So where did the rest of your wild rant come from?   After a rant like that, your conclusion is correct: I don't need that kind of vibe anywhere near my community.  Not that I was thinking of you as a prospective member: it takes a while for people to make that list.

    •  Quite honestly... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...this is because most of the people who would participate in the discussion, other than to echo the presented talking points, have been driven elsewhere. Not so with the other issues.

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